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Arguments Against Miracles
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RE: Arguments Against Miracles
Yes, I find it rather ominous that they seem to think that, because the bible contains historical, geographical, governmental truths sprinkled throughout the text, that it constitues the reliability of the source? Is that not some kind of non sequitur? I mean, it seems to me that any work of fiction could contain facts and even accounts of real people, but that doesn't automatically make it reasonable to say that the rest is true by default.

Also, I agree about their shoehorning of science into their argument. I was extremely put off when he mentioned that the law of the conservation of energy only applied to a "closed system" universe and that since god was outside of that universe, that he could produce miracles without violating the law. I also kind of inserted the idea of Occam's razor and he somehow reinterpreted it in a way that was made to fit with his views. I really don't know how he managed to "logic" his way out of that...
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Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Phil - March 24, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Phil - March 24, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by mediamogul - March 24, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 4:23 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Christian - March 24, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Nine - March 24, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Phil - March 24, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Nine - March 24, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Christian - March 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Nine - March 24, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Tobie - March 24, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by mediamogul - March 24, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Godschild - March 26, 2012 at 5:56 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Phil - March 26, 2012 at 6:33 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by NoMoreFaith - March 26, 2012 at 7:22 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by padraic - March 24, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Minimalist - March 24, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Logic - March 24, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by mediamogul - March 24, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by padraic - March 24, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 8:07 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by padraic - March 24, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Minimalist - March 24, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 9:40 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Minimalist - March 24, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Faith No More - March 25, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by KichigaiNeko - March 26, 2012 at 6:15 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Godschild - March 26, 2012 at 6:23 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Zen Badger - March 26, 2012 at 6:29 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by KichigaiNeko - March 26, 2012 at 6:32 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Godschild - March 27, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2012 at 8:26 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 6:32 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Minimalist - March 27, 2012 at 6:35 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by KichigaiNeko - March 28, 2012 at 1:39 am

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