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Arguments Against Miracles
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RE: Arguments Against Miracles
Also, I was disturbed by his rationalization about the laws of thermodynamics... He made the argument that the law states that in any process, the total energy of the universe remains the same. This is the law that states that states that energy cannot be created or destroyed. However, he somehow made the logical jump to assume that the universe is not a closed system, and that, therefore, god can interfere and manipulate various elements of the universe without violating any of the natural laws because he is outside of the system. This to me makes no sense, but how you you create a cogent argument that shows to a person who believes this that it just isn't a rational argument?
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Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Phil - March 24, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Phil - March 24, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by mediamogul - March 24, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 4:23 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Christian - March 24, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Nine - March 24, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Phil - March 24, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Nine - March 24, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Christian - March 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Nine - March 24, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Tobie - March 24, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by mediamogul - March 24, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Godschild - March 26, 2012 at 5:56 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Phil - March 26, 2012 at 6:33 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by NoMoreFaith - March 26, 2012 at 7:22 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by padraic - March 24, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Minimalist - March 24, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Logic - March 24, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by mediamogul - March 24, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by padraic - March 24, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 8:07 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by padraic - March 24, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Cyberman - March 24, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Minimalist - March 24, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by rationalnick - March 24, 2012 at 9:40 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Minimalist - March 24, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Faith No More - March 25, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by KichigaiNeko - March 26, 2012 at 6:15 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Godschild - March 26, 2012 at 6:23 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Zen Badger - March 26, 2012 at 6:29 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by KichigaiNeko - March 26, 2012 at 6:32 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Godschild - March 27, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2012 at 8:26 am
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 6:32 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by Minimalist - March 27, 2012 at 6:35 pm
RE: Arguments Against Miracles - by KichigaiNeko - March 28, 2012 at 1:39 am

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