JP I'm confused about which God you believe in here.
In one breath you claim God is "outside" you, and something yuou try to be like.
In the next breath you claim God is the Universe-so do you live "outside" the Universe.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you talked of mythology and the parables because that is exactly what the bible is, a storybook of parables and mythologies that don't know if God is outside of you "John 3:16"
or inside of you "John 17:21"
is it e pluribus unum or not?
are we of the one, or seperate from one?
You, for all your education and intelligence cannot seem to get any sort of grasp on this.
You also know that the earliest writings of the New Testament took place well over 100 years after the death of Jesus-who left NO writings of any kind behind. That there is no recorded history of Jesus outside your admitted mythological book of parables-which could just as well be "The Wizard Of Oz"
I was asking you those questions, simply to see if you trust your beliefs enough to let go of them. If you didn't have to fight for your belief in God, if you didn't believe in God what do you think would happen. Your answers to me were still given from the perspective of there being a God and an afterlife.
My truth is I have discovered that without God and an afterlife each moment is MORE precious, MORE rewarding, and I am much more present in them because I'm not seeing the world through a parable, but simply for what it is. I don't see you through a parable or as somehow relating to a myth or set of beliefs I have about the world. I simply see you as another human being, who I know has the exact same feeling of being the center of the Universe when you refer to yourself as "I".
The difference is "I" know that my beliefs are just that, beliefs. They are part of my chemical analog computers function, to give me a sense of self, of identity and motivation. I find that my beliefs are much more powerful when they are fact driven, and that people who operate from a place of blind faith in their beliefs tend to be somewhat looney, and most definitively stuck, or at best quite confused because they think their beliefs are real.
But are beliefs, and subsequent identities are not real, they are simply a frontal lobe illusion of our identity maker to make us feel real. You surely know that your thoughts are illusions, that they are no more real than what Brad Pitt thinks, or Charlie Manson thinks. Otherwise how do we end up with a Nazi Pope?
So which is your God, outside, or inside?
Om
In one breath you claim God is "outside" you, and something yuou try to be like.
In the next breath you claim God is the Universe-so do you live "outside" the Universe.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you talked of mythology and the parables because that is exactly what the bible is, a storybook of parables and mythologies that don't know if God is outside of you "John 3:16"
or inside of you "John 17:21"
is it e pluribus unum or not?
are we of the one, or seperate from one?
You, for all your education and intelligence cannot seem to get any sort of grasp on this.
You also know that the earliest writings of the New Testament took place well over 100 years after the death of Jesus-who left NO writings of any kind behind. That there is no recorded history of Jesus outside your admitted mythological book of parables-which could just as well be "The Wizard Of Oz"
I was asking you those questions, simply to see if you trust your beliefs enough to let go of them. If you didn't have to fight for your belief in God, if you didn't believe in God what do you think would happen. Your answers to me were still given from the perspective of there being a God and an afterlife.
My truth is I have discovered that without God and an afterlife each moment is MORE precious, MORE rewarding, and I am much more present in them because I'm not seeing the world through a parable, but simply for what it is. I don't see you through a parable or as somehow relating to a myth or set of beliefs I have about the world. I simply see you as another human being, who I know has the exact same feeling of being the center of the Universe when you refer to yourself as "I".
The difference is "I" know that my beliefs are just that, beliefs. They are part of my chemical analog computers function, to give me a sense of self, of identity and motivation. I find that my beliefs are much more powerful when they are fact driven, and that people who operate from a place of blind faith in their beliefs tend to be somewhat looney, and most definitively stuck, or at best quite confused because they think their beliefs are real.
But are beliefs, and subsequent identities are not real, they are simply a frontal lobe illusion of our identity maker to make us feel real. You surely know that your thoughts are illusions, that they are no more real than what Brad Pitt thinks, or Charlie Manson thinks. Otherwise how do we end up with a Nazi Pope?
So which is your God, outside, or inside?
Om
Atheism is a non-prophet organization.
Frisbeetarianism; The belief that when you die your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck...
George Carlin
Frisbeetarianism; The belief that when you die your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck...
George Carlin
