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Empty Tomb Puzzle
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RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle
ChadWooters Wrote:In the quotes you provided from Matthew, is says that MaryM and Mary go to the tomb. It does not say "When they they arrived at the tomb." It says they left to go. The earthquake and guard event happened before the Mary's arrived. The guards see the angle when it is outside the tomb and they are the witnesses of the earthquake, not the women. By the time the ladies arrive the angel has moved to the inside of the tomb. I assume angels can travel and don't have to stay in one place.

So essentially what you're saying is that Mark and Matthew complement each other? As in, what Mark didn't say about the boulder and guards Matthew said?

Considering Matthew came after Mark I just don't know how reliable the author is. His style of writing seems to be exaggerated with supernatural content that Mark doesn't mention. Take the crucifixion for example. Matthew chucks in another earthquake that Mark doesn't mention, or even Luke and John. I would have thought that something like an earthquake would be hard to forget. This makes me think that the author of Matthew never witnessed anything but instead took what was already there and made it sound fantastic. So based on his style of writing I am still inclined to see the angel at the tomb as the young man who talked to the Marys, as opposed to the angel moving the boulder and then becoming a young man who then spoke to the women. In other words I think Matthew and Mark don't complement each other but contradict when it comes to who talked to the women. Angel or young man?

Quote:But the order of placement within the canon hardly qualifies as a contradiction.
I didn't mean that the order is the contradiction. It's the angel/young man. Like I said above, Matthew comes across as describing the same event as Mark but with a supernatural twist. I doubt Matthew described what the angel did outside and then Mark talks about the same angel but now a young man inside. The fact that the angel/young man are described as saying the same thing to the women implies they are one and the same event. So what's it going to be? Angel or young man? Matthew's writing style just doesn't make him reliable.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 1, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by downbeatplumb - April 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Minimalist - April 1, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by oxymoron - April 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 1, 2012 at 6:07 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Tempus - April 3, 2012 at 4:54 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Minimalist - April 1, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 1, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Minimalist - April 1, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by padraic - April 1, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 1, 2012 at 9:23 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by BoyWonder - April 2, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by padraic - April 1, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 1, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 1, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by padraic - April 2, 2012 at 2:01 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 2, 2012 at 2:25 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 2, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Godschild - April 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by oxymoron - April 2, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 2, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by oxymoron - April 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 2, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Godschild - April 3, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by oxymoron - April 3, 2012 at 12:45 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by NoMoreFaith - April 3, 2012 at 5:12 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Godschild - April 4, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by NoMoreFaith - April 4, 2012 at 4:56 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by YahwehIsTheWay - April 2, 2012 at 3:50 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Faith No More - April 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 2, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by oxymoron - April 3, 2012 at 12:36 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 3, 2012 at 12:47 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 3, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 3, 2012 at 12:44 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Godschild - April 3, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 3, 2012 at 5:32 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Godschild - April 4, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 3, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 3, 2012 at 11:21 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 4, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 4, 2012 at 2:35 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Phil - April 4, 2012 at 3:18 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2012 at 10:16 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Phil - April 4, 2012 at 10:35 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Neo-Scholastic - April 4, 2012 at 11:07 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Phil - April 4, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Godschild - April 4, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 4, 2012 at 7:51 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by NoMoreFaith - April 4, 2012 at 7:56 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 4, 2012 at 7:59 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by NoMoreFaith - April 4, 2012 at 8:03 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 4, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 4, 2012 at 12:03 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by FallentoReason - April 4, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Empty Tomb Puzzle - by Godschild - April 5, 2012 at 12:07 am

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