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How Can Christians Still Believe??
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RE: How Can Christians Still Believe??
(April 2, 2012 at 9:12 am)BeeDeePee Wrote: God doesn't send you to hell, because hell is not a place, but a state of being. It is a state of person that is self-centered, so he/she can not love. As Sartre said, "hell is other people".

How does that make sense in terms of phrases like "gates of hell", "hell fire" quoted in the bible.

Secondly, is this concept consistent with the idea that Jesus can be rejected entirely and yet you can love>

I'm pretty sure I know the answer to both of these but I'd rather be clear on the version of the story you understand.

Quote:I don't accept the "juridical concept", where the God is a Heavenly Tyrant that punishes us(who are his slaves) if we do not listen him and perform his commandments. By incarnation, Christ made us equal with him. So, we are not slaves and subordinates to God, but now we have opportunity to partake in life of God, what is called theosis.

So if we are not slaves, we are free to choose not to believe in something that offers no credible evidence for existence. Yes?
We are free to practice our sexuality as comes naturally. Yes?

Or is "Free Will" about to get tricky on us?
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog

If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic.
― Tim Minchin, Storm
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How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Xavier - March 6, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Xavier - March 6, 2012 at 7:01 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Forsaken - March 6, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Xavier - March 6, 2012 at 7:16 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by BeeDeePee - April 2, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by BeeDeePee - April 2, 2012 at 8:53 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 6, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Forsaken - March 6, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Erinome - March 6, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Xavier - March 6, 2012 at 7:30 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Xavier - March 6, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 6, 2012 at 8:31 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Godschild - March 7, 2012 at 3:17 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Skepsis - March 7, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 6, 2012 at 9:01 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by picto90 - March 7, 2012 at 3:59 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by ThomM - March 7, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Godschild - March 7, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by One King - March 14, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 7, 2012 at 2:13 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Voltair - March 7, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Godschild - March 15, 2012 at 2:09 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 7, 2012 at 11:32 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by average - March 14, 2012 at 4:50 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 14, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 15, 2012 at 2:56 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by average - March 15, 2012 at 8:00 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Godschild - March 17, 2012 at 1:00 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by mediamogul - March 18, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Godschild - March 25, 2012 at 3:48 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by mediamogul - March 25, 2012 at 11:02 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Zen Badger - March 15, 2012 at 8:21 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by average - March 15, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by KichigaiNeko - March 15, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Xavier - March 15, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by average - March 15, 2012 at 10:14 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by KichigaiNeko - March 15, 2012 at 10:16 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by average - March 15, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 15, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 17, 2012 at 2:12 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by average - March 18, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Godschild - March 18, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Nine - March 18, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by average - March 18, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by YahwehIsTheWay - March 19, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 18, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 18, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by average - March 19, 2012 at 5:34 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Phil - March 25, 2012 at 4:21 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Forsaken - March 25, 2012 at 5:49 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Godschild - March 26, 2012 at 3:06 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by mediamogul - March 26, 2012 at 10:14 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - March 26, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Minimalist - April 2, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by NoMoreFaith - April 2, 2012 at 8:47 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Nine - April 2, 2012 at 8:48 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by NoMoreFaith - April 2, 2012 at 8:54 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by BeeDeePee - April 2, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by NoMoreFaith - April 2, 2012 at 9:21 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by BeeDeePee - April 2, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by NoMoreFaith - April 2, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by genkaus - April 2, 2012 at 9:41 am
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by genkaus - April 2, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Welsh cake - April 2, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: How Can Christians Still Believe?? - by Welsh cake - April 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm

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