Empty Tomb Puzzle

[Godscreated]

The disciples all 12 died horrible deaths

That's an assumption. Please provide us with a list of the disciples and their deaths if you don't mind. I'll give you a head start: John died a natural death.

In prison away from his family and could have been treated badly. Would you fight for a lie that would result in that kind of treatment.

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This is the kind of comment I expected, just babble.

Translation: "la la la not listening"

I have given two arguments about the empty tomb, both valid and reasoned. The priest could have ended it right there by opening the tomb, and would have if it was holding evidence in their favor.

Again, assuming the characters were real, the account historical and factual, and also that you understand the real characters and their motivations, and the politics of the region. Which you don't, because you can't, because no-one alive for the last millennium does.

The disciples all 12 died horrible deaths, for what, a lie, by no means. Some of the twelve would have given up the lie before death, so the twelve must have know the truth of the resurrection. HE IS RISEN.

Or it could all be a crock, a bunch of semi-historical fiction written by unknowns for reasons unknowable about events they never witnessed decades in the past with a political or philosophical agenda that the credulous in later centuries mistake for fact and waste a good deal of their lives trying to rationalise. HE IS BULLSHIT.

I thought we were making an argument from the position it is true, that's the way it started. Then when no argument was forth coming from you it changed to la, la, la not listening, again what I expected.