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We should take the Moral Highground
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RE: We should take the Moral Highground
(April 6, 2012 at 8:10 pm)mediamogul Wrote: A couple of points: First I would seperate the idea of "ethics" from the idea of individual "ethics" in practice.
Intresting that you say that, because I think the same way. For me transcendent values serve more as a philisophical background. It is one thing to believe in an ultimate good and quite another figuring out what it is.

(April 6, 2012 at 8:10 pm)mediamogul Wrote: Human nature and rationality can provide us with a basis for ethics external to individual wrong beliefs.
In principle I agree with you. The only difference is this. I believe that aligning our selves more closely with our humanity and our rationality more completely reflects divine aspects. Genkaus and I are having a long and involved conversation about this and he's helping me to use my words more precisely. So my idea is a work in progress and not something I am yet prepared to defend in a coherent way.

(April 6, 2012 at 8:10 pm)mediamogul Wrote: Ethics based upon sentience (a being's ability to suffer) provides a standard for human conduct. Suffering is self-defined as a state that human beings seek to avoid and conversely happiness is a state that humans seek and value. Individual conceptions of happiness and suffering exist and a person is free to pursue then insofar as they do not treat another person as a means to their end (happiness), cause unwarranted suffering, or impinge upon another person's reasonable pursuit of happiness.
I do believe you are on to something. It needs to be fleshed out a bit more, but overall it's a good approach. It's the last part (about not impinging on others) that I find a bit shakey.
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We should take the Moral Highground - by Gooders1002 - April 1, 2012 at 7:50 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Phil - April 1, 2012 at 9:08 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Phil - April 1, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Gooders1002 - April 1, 2012 at 10:59 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Napoléon - April 1, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by elunico13 - April 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by KichigaiNeko - April 1, 2012 at 11:19 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by padraic - April 2, 2012 at 4:11 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Matt231 - April 2, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Tobie - April 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Minimalist - April 2, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Tobie - April 2, 2012 at 5:21 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Bgood - April 2, 2012 at 5:36 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by mediamogul - April 2, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by DeistPaladin - April 5, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by mediamogul - April 2, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by padraic - April 2, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by padraic - April 3, 2012 at 7:43 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by zip_ster - April 3, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by genkaus - April 3, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by DeistPaladin - April 4, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by DeistPaladin - April 5, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by genkaus - April 5, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by genkaus - April 5, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Bgood - April 4, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Tempus - April 5, 2012 at 11:03 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Tempus - April 5, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by mediamogul - April 5, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by mediamogul - April 5, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by DeistPaladin - April 5, 2012 at 11:23 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by DeistPaladin - April 5, 2012 at 11:27 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by DeistPaladin - April 5, 2012 at 12:03 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Welsh cake - April 5, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Welsh cake - April 5, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by padraic - April 5, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by padraic - April 6, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Welsh cake - April 6, 2012 at 8:30 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by DeistPaladin - April 6, 2012 at 10:39 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by mediamogul - April 6, 2012 at 10:51 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Tempus - April 6, 2012 at 10:50 am
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by mediamogul - April 6, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by mediamogul - April 6, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Neo-Scholastic - April 6, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by mediamogul - April 6, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by Reforged - April 6, 2012 at 6:52 pm
RE: We should take the Moral Highground - by padraic - April 8, 2012 at 8:44 pm

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