Militant atheism: Why it exists, and why we need it.

[kılıç_mehmet]

If you're going to bring up semantics like "purposes in life," then ho damn you'd better be ready to have a discussion that will last weeks. I'll just take that as you using mind-numbingly dull rhetoric to make yourself sound like you're a real "tell it like it is" kinda guy, and just simply reply to it with the following:

I am, friend. For I think that a purpose makes a person a lot more grown up personally.

If you have such an amazing purpose in life then why the fuck is your name not in the news every day? Either you're the President of the US or at least of some small third-world country somewhere or you're a messiah, or otherwise whatever silly purpose you have that you think is so important in comparison to mine [the only way you could make such a claim is if you yourself are confident your own purpose is much the greater] really isn't, so why don't you climb down off that pedestal you climbed up on, hm?

My purpose is not only my own. My purpose is not *me* oriented.
Besides, my purpose, by my purpose, I mean our purpose, is quite relevant and important given the circumstances it aims to change.
I came to this conclusion by examining other ideologies who claimed to do the same.
Besides, what good is it for you if your name is on the news every day?
What good did it do for Whitney Houston?

My point for the OP was largely made in frustration but it is not something I merely let pop into my head, either. Clearly some of the theists have been met with atheists who simply want to deride them for being a theist. This seems to cause problems for them. But human nature is often that the one who makes the most sense will deride the one who is sounding like an ass. Theism whether you like it or not is basically saying you believe shit that has no evidence to support it other than hearsay. In ANY other matter other than religion when someone says "I believe what this guy says just because he said it," we think they're a gullible idiot. The moment we start talking about invisible bearded fuckers in the sky who are obsessed with small clans of people, suddenly we're in "respect what you're saying" territory. At least that's what people EXPECT, anyway.

My point is, I really don't understand the point of your frustration. I mean, if it were something like a personal issue, I don't have a gf, my mom doesn't love me, my ears are too big, or my feet smell, or something like that, I could try to understand just what really is your problem.
Really, what do you get out of by telling people that are on the polar opposite side of what you believe or don't believe? Theists actually do that for a purpose. They gain converts for their God, and religion. You?
You do that for the sake of....What?
This is what I don't understand here. You can just go about your daily business without actually getting into religious friction with anyone.

I mean, if you aimed for something of a fraternal, political or similar aim, I could understand. But you simply aim for something little as telling other people that their god doesn't exist, with no reason other than to do so.
Let's say that you didn't. Would that make you less an atheist?
No. Just like it would make a theist no less a theist if he/she chose to be extremely personal about his/her faith.

You believe in fairy tales and you're a grown adult. Expect derision from people who stopped believing in the equivalent of Santa Claus and the Tooth Tairy many years ago. I'm not saying that to be a dick; I'm saying it as a genuine advisory.

Meaning that you think that it is your duty to tell people that there is no God, whom you hold to be the equivalent(in terms of existence and social acceptability in belief) of the tooth fairy.

Personally if I say something stupid I damn sure hope people will deride me for it because it'll educate me to make sure I don't make an ass out of myself. It's why despite what Mehmet said, I don't hate him or even dislike him [though the above wording will make it sound like it]. If I hated everyone who derided something stupid I said, I would never have any hope in hell of having ANY kind of intellectual discourse with friends, ever.

Well, in the case you say something that stupid, I will mock you, instead of politely telling you where you're wrong.

Shit, if I didn't get derided for saying stupid shit, I'd still be a christian. But people pointing out the silliness in what I believed and doing it bluntly and without being gentle and ultimately condescending is a large part of what woke me up to all the inconsistencies and logical fallacies within the bible.

I don't know how you became an atheist, but if being mocked is the way to make someone believe in something else than what they believed in before, the person is probably just changing their own beliefs out of fear for being mocked.
What good would it bring me if I mocked and taunted the leftists in the campus, by simply shouting out the same slogans that were proven to be ineffective in breaking their spirit years and years ago?
But I've managed to gain people for our cause by explaining them our views in full, by answering their questions, and getting into polite debates if necessary.
Inconsistencies...Logical fallacies....The term logic, in my opinion, applies to worldly things. What logic can you apply to any supernatural phenomena? The fact that you're trying to apply such logic is illogical in my point of view.

Long story short; if you don't like getting your feelings hurt, then stop believing in fairy tales. Don't even lie to people about your beliefs, either. Either come to terms with the fact that prostration to mythical unprovable entities will get you some measure of derision from people who don't believe in that, or realize WHY you're being made fun of, and throw off the superstition. It's as simple as that.

Meaning, you're a bully. You're going to make people turn atheist by making fun of them for believing in a religion.
I, personally, respect people's personal choices. I see this as one of the prime aspects of secular thought.

Meanwhile I am going to keep being a dick to people who claim their religion is the "correct" one and who can't keep silent about their delusions. I don't inquire peoples' beliefs; they HAVE to tell me theirs of their own accord. Your average normal quiet Christian I have no problem with. Your average normal quiet muslim I have no problem with. Your average covetous jew? No problem with them [except they refuse to give me their bags of jewgold *lol*]. But the ones who are loud? Well, I used to be a metal singer: I can be much fucking louder than they can.

Well, any believer is a believer because he/she thinks that their religion is the correct one. There is nothing else to be said about this.
I don't know why you think that the covetous jew, and the quite moslem think less that their religion is the correct one than the most staunch fundamentalist amongst their kin.
Besides, they can justify their loudness.
How do you justify your loudness?