RE: Nationalism and secularism
April 18, 2012 at 6:17 pm
(This post was last modified: April 18, 2012 at 6:22 pm by kılıç_mehmet.)
(April 18, 2012 at 6:04 pm)Rhythm Wrote: LOL, Yes Mehm, I do read my children fairy tales and hero stories from a variety of cultures, I do sing "rebel songs" very well, thanks for asking. I also...tell them american fairy tales, and sing bluegrass and southern gospel....... (bluegrass and "rebel songs" share the same instruments and melodies, they are directly related to each other, btw, southern gospel is devotional choir music with a fairly heavy influence from slave cultures...see, origins...) If I'm the perfect example of how the melting pot works you've got the melting pot all wrong brother.I know that you're a prime example of how the melting pot works. Just like all other americans. The fact that you listen to bluegrass means that another american listens to bluegrass.
The fact that I listen to my own ethnic music doesn't mean that you will listen to that music, and you probably won't, but if I stay where you stay for as long as a few years, I will start to listen to bluegrass, and my children will start to listen bluegrass, while they won't listen to my own ethnic music at all.
This is what constitutes a melting pot, you see.
And I already said that American cultural accumulation starts from the point on from your foundation to the present day.
However, it still does not provide for a culture that can be compared to the cultures around the world. Yoghurt jokes aside, it is a derivation, as you said it.
However, it certainly does not accept much beyond what can be considered the main ingredients. And well, it still does not really trace itself back fully to the main ingredients at all. Your ethnic pride and consciousness are not of what you consider to be your ancestry. Unlike me, however. Although, it is not you, who is to blame for it. Neither can I do anything but to cherish my own culture. It is the way things work over here, and over there.
Quote:Again, you managed to squeeze a ton of garbage into a tiny post.Have it your way. If you do not want to read my posts, tell me not to reply.
Quote:Ethnocentic, ignorant, bigoted shit. Guess that about sums it up. You seem to have elaborate fairy tales about both your own blood and the blood of others (and all things connected to either concept, even if the connection exists only in your mind). I would say that this surprised me, but it doesn't.I guess you don't really want to understand what I'm trying to explain to you.
I guess it's hard to fill a cup that is already filled by things, irrelevant to the world that you live in.
If you do not want to accept historical facts as nothing more than fairy tales, just because you want to, be my guest.
We do not build an ideology on the basis of fairy tales. Such ideologies have crumbled to dust long ago, prime example, communism.
We, on the other hand, still stand strong.
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