(April 23, 2012 at 5:39 pm)Scabby Joe Wrote: What does it matter if there is objective morality or not when so many have different views?
Objective morality is not effected by view points. It is not dependent on people, it exist because there is One who can judge and enforce it, because the One is absolutely moral and because that morality is who the One is.
SJ Wrote:You could argue that morality is innate and instinctive. That accounts for a lot of the similar moral views we have. The differences, and changes over time, are just reflections of how we perceive our innate morality.
Yes that's what many do, however this makes morality subjective, and subjective morality taken to it's limit would be a disaster, everyone would live by his/her own morality, chaos, the downfall of civilization.
SJ Wrote:Whether morality is truly subjective, or objective and our perception of it varies, seems to matter very little.
Again objective morality does not depend on people or what they believe, it is a standard that is set because of who the One is. Varied perception of morality is subjective morality and will result in an unfairness for some and an advantage for others, the more powerful will set moralit for a given population.
SJ Wrote:I like to think that it is undeniably moral to avoid causing unnecessary pain and suffering and promote happiness and well being. At least I have something to live by and strive to achieve. It seems to me that without some sort of moral compass as I have for myself, people are in danger of just drifting and not aspiring to do anything.
Those are good ideas to live by, but that would not work in a totally free society because not all people would give up some of their stuff to keep people unknown to them from suffering.
SJ Wrote:If people think everything is relative, morals are just opinions, everyone is entitled to their opinion, how can they judge another's actions wrong?
They can't and that is what's absolutely wrong with subjective morality, but when you have a society run by man and all his flaws and you kick out the only One who is objectively moral at some point the society will fail, I can prove that statement too.[/quote]
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.