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To Christians who aren't creationists
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
(April 25, 2012 at 12:22 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: You are the one saying that is how Jesus meant it to be taken. Jesus did not come to inform us of historical facts. He retold a story to teach us how to live.
Actually not true for He points back to the history and the law of the torah several times to build on the purpose of being here. In otherwords He used the History of the Jews in many cases to establish the ultimate direction of the Church.

Quote:Why? God did not command anyone to confirm specific scientific theories.
Because in our Greatest Command we are told to Love our Lord God with all of our Being (Heart, Mind Spirit, and Strength.) In order to Love God with all of my mind I must reconcile what the fossil record, or rather the atheist community's interpretation of the fossil record would have us believe.

Quote:Look at how together we parsed out the significance of ‘chayah’. Can’t you see that everyone is already engaged in the process of interpreting the text, regardless of their take on it. When we engage with the Word it challenges our ability to understand it and make it part of our life.
seeking the definition of a Hebrew word is not the same as taken a story like Adam and eve and assigning it a fictional status when the bible does not give it one.

One has to reinterpret the story given in order to call it an allegory, for it is referred to and recorded as literal truth by the central figure in this religion.

Quote:You’re suggesting that I have deviated from the ‘historic’ Christian faith. The various denominations reflect the ideas of those we look to for guidance. Some look to Origen, some to Luther, and others to Calvin? I find Swedenborg’s exegesis more compelling, even if it is a minority opinion.
Yes I am, however that does not necessarily make it a sin as with Luther Calvin and the others who brought legitimate reformation to the church. The Goal here is not conformity but the freedom to express our abilities to their potential limits in order that we can worship God with all of our being.
There are few prerequisites for a Jesus Christ centered faith, the rest can be filled in by the limits of our abilities to comprehend and manage. That said of the few prerequisites they are non negotiable.

I don't know of nor ever hear of your brand of christianity, and I am not here to challenge it. I am just point out a way for the literal interpretation of Genesis to work along side with the evolutionary account of origins.

Quote:From my perspective evangelicals are stuck on the surface of the text and not engaging it on its deepest levels.
Perhaps for them that is all they can manage. Do you really think God can find attonement for sin and not find santification for those worshiping Him to the limits of their ablity to do so? Or do you contend that God will be holding all of us to the standard you have found for yourself?

Isn't that the same swallow thinking you just accused the evangelicals of?
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Welsh cake - April 24, 2012 at 6:08 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 24, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Re: To Christians who aren't creationists - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Re: RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 1:50 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 8:39 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 24, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Minimalist - April 25, 2012 at 1:49 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 5:29 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Minimalist - April 25, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Shell B - April 25, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - April 25, 2012 at 11:44 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Minimalist - April 25, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Welsh cake - April 27, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by DeeTee - May 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 3, 2012 at 11:07 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by DeeTee - May 3, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 4, 2012 at 3:14 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 5, 2012 at 4:31 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 7, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 7, 2012 at 10:25 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 7, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 7, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Tobie - May 8, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Aiza - May 12, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Aiza - May 13, 2012 at 3:23 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Tobie - May 8, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Annik - May 8, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Re: To Christians who aren't creationists - by fr0d0 - May 8, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 12, 2012 at 3:32 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 13, 2012 at 7:07 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 18, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 9:28 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 19, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 19, 2012 at 4:06 am

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