(April 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm)genkaus Wrote: [quote='Godschild' pid='277051' dateline='1335299545']
How can you possibly believe that, objective (absolute) morality must come from a perfectly moral source, if it does not, it is subjective (whatever I feel) morality. Morality does not come out of the thin air, it represents the One or those who initiate it.
genkaus Wrote:I believe it because I actually care about using the words according to their correct meaning.
Objective means independent of anyone's will, mind or consciousness. So if morality is dependent on god's will, then it is subjective, not objective.
Absolute means unchanging in time or space. Something can be objective and still not be absolute.
Objective morality does not come from god and it does not come from thin air. It comes from the same source that logic comes form - the nature of reality. In this case, the nature of a moral agent.
If you care about the correct meaning then how is it you can say subjective morality can be non changing, when the very definition of subjective is "differing".
You are not listening to me "no surprise", the One's will, mind or consciousness has nothing to do with objective absolute morality, the morality is defined by who He is not what He thinks.
objective: of or relating to an object or end : existing outside and independent of the mind. Objective morality is who God is. God is eternally unchanging. He is absolutely moral.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.