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Church stance on gay marriage "for good of society", says Bishop Michael Nazi
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RE: Church stance on gay marriage "for good of society", says Bishop Michael Nazi
(April 25, 2012 at 5:35 pm)Paul the Human Wrote:
mehmet Wrote:We're the majority, they're the minority. They ought not to make demands of us.

That quote is disturbing.

Disturbing for the minority?
I sure hope so. Besides, it's not something that is exclusive to the gays either.
It is a general statement to anyone who views himself as a part of a minority.
Quote:Sure, they could say anything they want. They could say that the verse condemns bunk beds if they felt like it. It doesn't mean that it's the correct interpretation of the implications of the verse. You seem to be assuming that the Bible would be condemning pedestry in this verse because it involves two people of the same gender. I could think of a variety of more plausible answers, such as you know, one of the people happens to be a child! The problem when you say that the Bible would have condemned consensual relationships between two adults of the same gender if it was a common thing going on back then, is that you're not saying that based on anything the Bible actually says, but your own modern values and biases which may not in fact be biblical.
The bible is condemning pederasty because it was the only application of homosexuality that they could probably think of at those times.
Besides, the bible doesn't condemn pedophilia by today's standards, as people did marry young at those days, whether they committed sexual acts with a small girl or boy.
But let's look at this verse:
Leviticus 20:13. It prescribes death for both parties. Whereas in the laws that are about fornication, a woman does not have to suffer death if she was raped in the countryside, where she would not have been heard if she screamed for help. It makes no such distinction for homosexual acts between two males, even if one of the parties is a youngster.
So what really is there to discuss about how this verse should be interpretated?
My ideas are not based on any biblical interpretations. They are on the lines of the society and the ideals for which I hold for modern Turkish society. That is all.
Quote:So, still droning on about how homosexuality and pedophilia are tied at the hip, still droning on about god hating teh gayz. Still wrong, on both counts.
I'm saying is that they don't have to, as pedophilia was a rather recent addition to our moral compass. The ancient people had no such things. Same still goes for many recently contacted natives, where things such as pedophilia by our standards are socially accepted facts.
So, pedarasty is still at the end, a homosexual act, and thousands of years of judeo-christian theology simply has no distinction regarding the circumstances of age.
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RE: Church stance on gay marriage "for good of society", says Bishop Michael Nazi - by kılıç_mehmet - April 26, 2012 at 5:31 am

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