RE: Church stance on gay marriage "for good of society", says Bishop Michael Nazi
April 26, 2012 at 2:31 pm
(This post was last modified: April 26, 2012 at 2:37 pm by kılıç_mehmet.)
(April 26, 2012 at 2:20 pm)Rhythm Wrote: No you don't, you're just publicizing your opinions. I've told you, you have no such right, and it offends my decency.If you would explain why you think I'm abnormal and defective, we can elaborate on the matter.
You remain abnormal and defective. You dare not say my assertions are incorrect. (see the above)
Quote:You are full of shit, Meh. In many parts of the world creation of offspring is something one does as part of one's duty and chore regardless of whether one is hetro or homosexual, while sexual attraction belongs entire in a different realm of discretionary pleasure.No. Creation of offspring is done through marriage, regardless of whatever culture you can think of. Homosexuals also had to do this until the modern times, as not to let their abnormal condition resurface, or supressed it altogether, and still brought forth offspring only through a state and society sanctioned marriage.
They are orthagonal to each other.
It really didn't matter what your sexual attraction was, if it was homosex, you still had to comply with social standards. Nowadays, these standards have been relaxed, and homosexuals are trying to push this laxity towards social institutions like marriage.
Quote:A non-hateful way of thinking would be accepting them without telling them they need hide their ways or thinking of them as not normal. This is why we say that you don't accept homosexuals, because to truly do that, you would at least need to realize that they have a right to be who they are without putting on a 'normal face' in public.Well, if I did think of them as normal, I'd not be accepting them as the way they are. If I treated a child with autism like a normal child and sent it to a normal school, instead of specialized schools that deal with those kind of children, I'd surely "treat it as normal", but it's still be wrong. Likewise, I am in favor of looking at homosexuals as peoples with an abnormality, a defect. If I overlooked their defect, I'd overlook the thing that defines themselves as minority. And they want to be recognized as a minority. Meaning, they would not like for me to overlook their defect.
So why blame me?
If they don't put a normal face in public, what face will they put? Homosexual face? What does that one look like, I wonder.
It's not about their "right" to be what they are, this is not something they do out of their own pleasure, as far as I'm concerned, they do this because this is what they are, biologically. So they are automatically still under the protection of the right to live, right to healthcare and etc. all that stuff. But I don't know what exactly gives them the right on social institutions, especially those which are the basis of family.
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