(April 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:(April 29, 2012 at 1:37 pm)gringoperry Wrote: Alas, I cannot convince you that there is a god, as I have tried to convince myself and failed miserably. However, I am 99.9 percent certain that if there is a god they are not as described by any of our major religions. Furthermore, anyone who thinks that a being which created the entire universe is so simplistic, fallible, prone to hissy fits and as insecure as those described by our major religions, is seriously deluded. For me, that only leaves science or some sort of supreme conscious energy. The former hasn't given us all the answers to the origins of the universe, but we're getting pretty close. The latter, if I'm honest, is my way of hanging onto the hope that there is a god out there, somewhere. Incidentally, if I ever meet the fucker, they are going to get seriously bitch-slapped.
You "hope" (and admit it!) that there is something out there, is the sum total of your belief system? You'll be atheist within weeks.
It's not the sum total of my belief system, however, when I look at my belief system analytically and logically, yes, that is basically the conclusion that I come to. I guess I'm just not prepared to commit myself to god(s) without proof, but at the same time I'm still not prepared to say that they don't exist without proof. I've been told that it is an intellectually cowardly standpoint, but meh. I've been around these discussions and debates on both atheist and theist forums for years, yet in all that time, neither side has presented me with enough evidence to convince me that their stance is the correct one.