RE: God, come out, come out wherever you are!
May 1, 2012 at 2:58 am
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2012 at 3:02 am by Godscreated.)
(May 1, 2012 at 1:58 am)Christi Wrote: If man is made in God's image, then how are there so many images of man? Which man was lucky enough to actually be made in God's image?
It's pretty perverse if you think about it. Just think about all of the people killed in the name of God. The murderers are believers yet they kill and, by definition, will gain entrance into Heaven.
By definition you do not know they will. Now for murderers, Emperor Commodus gathered up all the dwarfs, crippled and freaks his guards could find around Rome and drug them into the Colosseum. There they were given meat cleavers and ordered to hack each other to death.
Christi, your first question, surely you're more intelligent than that. Now that I look at the second question, I'm beginning to have doubts.
Welcome to the forum,
(May 1, 2012 at 2:54 am)Christi Wrote:(May 1, 2012 at 2:38 am)Godschild Wrote:(May 1, 2012 at 12:01 am)Matt231 Wrote:(April 30, 2012 at 11:50 pm)Godschild Wrote:(April 30, 2012 at 11:20 pm)Matt231 Wrote: How has he earned your worship? What has he done for YOU? .... He has done nothing to EARN worship.
You're mistaken when you say God should earn your worship, it does not work that way. God desires for you to give Him worship out of the freewill He has given, equate worship and love, God desires both and forces neither.
I don't believe God must earn my worship. I would not worship him even if he did exist. But how am I supposed to believe in something that I have never seen or experienced? If he wanted my worship so badly, he would ask me for it, not expect me to put my faith in something that has no evidence to support it and is no different than any other myth.
How's that now, read what I've put in bold above, and tell me again you do not think God has to earn our worship.
Ask for it you say, why should God ask a creature He created to worship Him, it's a given we should, most don't and few do,why, because the few realize we should because He first loved us, that creation thing you see.
I never saw or experienced God until the day He convicted me, all of a sudden I saw things I was doing as wrong, things I had never given a thought of being wrong. The experience gave me a lot to consider, a lot to ponder over, and when I had I realized I was sinning, that became a burden that this stubborn man lived with for many, many years. One day I realized I was tired of the burden and wanted it gone, I knew how because I read the Bible, so I did what was in scripture and was freed of the burden, from then own I have experienced God in many wonderful ways, and have seen His work in action, though I've yet to see Him in person. Just as you have seen the wind in action but have never seen the wind.
How is it "freewill" when there is an "or else" along with? You say God forces neither, but the belief in the existence of a Hell proves otherwise. If one believes in God and what The Bible states, one is to believe that the punishment for not following God's path is to be banished to Hell. There are literally so many passages in The Bible that prove God (as defined in The Bible) does not exist.
I am not saying that there is not an entity out there that could be considered a God. What I am saying is that it's not in The Bible (too lazy for italics). The Bible's definition of God is full of false reasoning.
If you want to believe in something and live a righteous life, do so on your own, but not because some book told you what exists and what does not exist.
Through the scriptures God has revealed Himself to me, that is why I can trust them.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.