(May 4, 2012 at 2:12 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(May 4, 2012 at 11:11 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: I always find it curious when it takes several thousand years for the text to be "interpreted" correctly.Or to recover what was lost. The text as written reflects the perspective of ancients who thought and spoke in metaphor and could read images the way we read words. I say we need to recover the language of value and meaning that has been lost in the vain quest to force the text into a modern scientific/historical paradigm. The evangelicals forget that the bible's message concerns spiritual matters of life and faith. Not explaining or describing physical phenomena. In this respect, literalists are every bit as materialistic as the actual materialists they oppose.
That doesn't explain the necessity of interpretation unless you assume the creator is ambivalent about whether we believe in him or not.
Your lofty goal, simply confirms an absentee deity in that "truth" has been allowed to be a shadow of what was originally meant by ancient metaphor. This requires leaps of imagination, one that does not presuppose the texts are taken from direct communion with a deity.
That isn't actually a criticism btw, most ancient history is composed of leaps of imagination which seeks evidence to affirm the likely truth of the proposed imagined scenario.
In terms of being able to recreate this scenario, several thousands years is a long time when much of the period contains little solid written record that makes discerning fact from fiction impossible.
Imagine trying to discern Batman in 4000 years, without the wealth of written record. And Batman doesn't even WANT you to believe in him.
It still remains curious regardless of your aims, to seek affirmation of your deity using methods that by default require the rejection of things that contradict your views and accepting those that do.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm