Atheists are Intolerant

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It's not a fallacy when said group (Catholic commits acts that are not acceptable to in said group's religious text (the bible). I guess you STILL blatantly ignored the FACT that the Bible was BANNED and nobody could translate into English for many centuries. I'm sure the bible told them to do that. Or how about this one...Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot were atheists, were they not? So it goes both ways.

It is still a fallacy no matter what slant you wish to put on it. These people murdered and killed in the name of christianity. You saying that they weren't true christians doesn't change that.

No it isn't you should study up on your fallacies. I never said anything about them being "true Christians". I simply said the bible does not teach that.

But can you explain to me what you mean by "killed in the name of Christianity"? Is this similar to when our government goes to war and "kills in the name of democracy/freedom"?

And it was entirely predictable you would bring up such dictators.

Yeah and I not surprised that you brought up the Catholic church even though I'M NOT CATHOLIC! You do know that there were other branches of Christianity right?

The thing you obviously cannot grasp however is that those dictators did not do what they did 'in the name of atheism' unlike many other figures throughout history who did their atrocities 'in the name of religion'.

Obviously you cannot grasp that there were other branches of Christianity and that the Catholic church forced false doctrines upon the masses. One being you cannot read the bible let alone translate it into English. This is NOT taught anywhere in the bible. You're basically insisting that atheists do bad because political goals and the Catholic church did bad because they wanted to go to heaven. Right...

The fact that they were atheists had nothing to do with their political goals and their political movements were not in the name of religion or atheism. Or do you disagree? Because I'd sure like some reference to where you think they did what they did due to their atheism.

How do you kill in the name of atheism and religion? I don't get why a Christian doing bad is Christianity's fault, but an atheist doing bad it is the individual. I agree that the individual should be held responsible, but it should go both ways. It is hypocritical to imposed such a double standard.

Oh is that what I said? Care to quote me on that?

This was what I responded to...
http://atheistforums.org/thread-12704-po...#pid281694

And you responed...
"You miss the point of the post.

The point is that millions (yes millions) of people have died due to christianity, because people refused to believe. They don't necessarily have to be atheist. They could be Jew, Muslim, agnostic whatever. Doesn't matter what label you give them. That's not the point.

The point is that christianity has oppressed others from doing what they want for hundreds of years."

But it was YOU that missed the POINT. I responded to a poster insisting that atheists had horrendous injustices forced upon them. You tried to make it a "everyone had bad done to them" claim. But that was NEVER the issue.

The POINT which I have repeated at least twice now, is that it DOES NOT MATTER whether the people who suffered due to christianity or any religion were atheist or not.

The simple fact is, people suffered because of it. Maybe try reading what I fucking write hmm?

Yeah well your point is irrelevant since I never made a case against your generalized "everyone was oppressed". I simply asked for anyone to list 5 atheist that were either "martyred" or received said injustices. Nobody has been able to justify this lie. The best you could do is try to change the subject.

Please tell me where the fuck I made this claim. Please find and quote and let me know exactly where I said this.

Again I reiterate my point, you are more concerned with what labels people have than the simple fact that people have suffered under the rule of your religion. It amazes me that you and your ilk have the audacity and the arrogance to take the moral high ground.

Again I will reiterate YOUR point is irrelevant. You are hiding behind a blanketed statement and avoiding the REAL argument.

I backed up my claims with fact and evidence and even you did not refute that millions of people have died in the name of christianity.

What is this claim you think I am making?

I will ask again, please quote and present where I make these 'claims' you think I am making.

Your argument is a straw man, so I'm sure it wasn't hard for you to do that. The claim you are making is "everybody had injustices" on the basis that I "misunderstood" the point in the post I replied to. Well if you go back to my first point you will see how this argument is just WRONG.

You are misinterpreting my argument intentionally and avoiding all the points I make in favour of pointless assertions.

You are misinterpreting my argument (you can decided whether it was intentional or not). Your points are totally irrelevant (but you only made one and that was that "everybody had injustices force upon them"). But my point I made in MY first post has been totally IGNORED by YOU.

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Well the Catholic church must have did those things because God told them to. You mean to tell me that God commanded me to rape and torture people?

YES! Yes he did. Please read your Bible or see a history book.

Obviously it is YOU that should read the bible and a history book. Or maybe you could quote me the verse that says rape and torture is a commandment.

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Well the Catholic church must have did those things because God told them to. You mean to tell me that God commanded me to rape and torture people. Aw shucks...hide yo kids...hide yo wife...

Nah, my missus would kick your ass, and my eldest would bitchslap you back to the Baptist Church.

I'm sure they'll understand since God "commanded" me to do it...

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What do Christians committing crimes or being in jail have to do with Christianity?

I'd say a whole hell of a lot ... considering it's you people using the no true scotsman argument at every turn and hitting us non-believers with arguments about objective morality.

No it actually doesn't. And "you people" love to make hasty generalizations whenever you can (kind of like YOU just did).

Does an atheist committing a crime or going to jail make you reconsider being an atheist?

Of course not. Atheists make no claim of having higher moral standards and an "inner peace" supposedly provided by god upon salvation. I mean your point is just silly.

Yeah it's a silly as your answer to my first point...

I mean you are putting forth unrealistic expectations. We are all humans, and people are going to do what they want to.

Awesome. Thank you for driving my point home. Please re-read your emboldened words over and over again till you understand my point.

(For clarity add the words, regardless of what they claim to believe, at the end of your sentence.)

Actually it would be better to leave the "regardless of what they claim to believe" off.