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Evolution in action
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RE: Evolution in action
Quote:Faith and evidence don't go in the same sentence. With evidence comes the rational understanding of a particular truth whereas with faith one acknowledges it can not be shown to be true, hence why one must have faith that it is true.
I do not quite agree with you. There are many problems associated with evolution - yet you may believe it - have faith in the theory.

Evidence may support a theory - which may later appear to be unfounded. Science is sometimes described as a process of discovery - and not a final result - thus still sometimes faith in something which was not true but was based on "evidence". There are even disagreements within the scientific community (that accepts the theory evolution). By implication one or more will be wrong - and thus faith in their "interpretation" misplaced or correct.
As far as evidence for the Christian faith, it is not based on "head-in-the-sand" acceptance of "fairy stories", but based on information - and that which can be verified by any reasonable person actually checks out. Thus evidence supports my faith. The same way that evidence supports your faith. Hence... big argument.
My position in any case is not to convince you that you are wrong. I assume you have undoubtedly come to your conclusion based on research. I would rather have you consider that the existence of God as a real possibility, and one with dramatic implications.
And if you do, now or in the future, come to a different conclusion, it will be none of my doing in any case and will not be based on careful consideration of fact. The Christian faith is not in the first instance a choice of which facts seems to fit available information best.
It is however a real pity that there are many false "prophets" - and it must be real confusing to listen to so many interpretations. One of the problems is that religion is big business. Forget what people say (especially the clever ones from seminaries) - check the Bible out and some of the older preachers (see Jonathan Edwards and Charles Spurgeon)




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Evolution in action - by Phil - April 24, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: Evolution in action - by frankiej - April 24, 2012 at 10:40 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2012 at 10:43 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - April 24, 2012 at 10:44 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Minimalist - April 24, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Anomalocaris - April 24, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Minimalist - April 24, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by downbeatplumb - April 24, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Carnavon - May 1, 2012 at 9:10 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Aegrus - May 1, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Carnavon - May 1, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Mister Agenda - May 1, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by downbeatplumb - May 1, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - May 1, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Carnavon - May 1, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 1, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by jackman - May 1, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Minimalist - May 4, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - May 1, 2012 at 8:02 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Cyberman - May 2, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Mister Agenda - May 1, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Carnavon - May 5, 2012 at 8:05 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - May 5, 2012 at 10:42 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 5, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by popeyespappy - May 1, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by FallentoReason - May 1, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Anomalocaris - May 1, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Mister Agenda - May 1, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by downbeatplumb - May 1, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Welsh cake - May 1, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by zebo-the-fat - May 2, 2012 at 4:15 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by DeeTee - May 3, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by zebo-the-fat - May 4, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 4, 2012 at 10:27 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - May 4, 2012 at 10:43 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Jackalope - May 4, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Cinjin - May 4, 2012 at 12:49 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Jackalope - May 4, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: Evolution in action - by DeeTee - May 4, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by NoMoreFaith - May 4, 2012 at 6:20 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Anomalocaris - May 4, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Minimalist - May 4, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Minimalist - May 4, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Anomalocaris - May 5, 2012 at 11:01 am
RE: Evolution in action - by DeeTee - May 5, 2012 at 5:13 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by zebo-the-fat - May 5, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Cyberman - May 5, 2012 at 7:38 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Carnavon - May 7, 2012 at 11:29 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Tobie - May 7, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Carnavon - May 8, 2012 at 5:43 am
RE: Evolution in action - by NoMoreFaith - May 8, 2012 at 6:59 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Zen Badger - May 8, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: Evolution in action - by FallentoReason - May 7, 2012 at 11:53 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Carnavon - May 7, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by popeyespappy - May 5, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by DeeTee - May 5, 2012 at 8:46 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - May 5, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 5, 2012 at 10:17 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Godschild - May 6, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Jackalope - May 6, 2012 at 1:25 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - May 6, 2012 at 2:06 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Godschild - May 6, 2012 at 2:37 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - May 6, 2012 at 2:38 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Jackalope - May 6, 2012 at 2:41 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Godschild - May 6, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Jackalope - May 6, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Godschild - May 6, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - May 7, 2012 at 8:57 am
RE: Evolution in action - by DeeTee - May 6, 2012 at 2:38 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 6, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 7, 2012 at 10:40 am
RE: Evolution in action - by DeeTee - May 6, 2012 at 2:39 am
RE: Evolution in action - by popeyespappy - May 6, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Minimalist - May 7, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 6, 2012 at 11:56 am
RE: Evolution in action - by DeeTee - May 6, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 7, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: Evolution in action - by LastPoet - May 6, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by C Rod - May 6, 2012 at 3:12 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Cyberman - May 6, 2012 at 11:00 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Minimalist - May 6, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Minimalist - May 6, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Mister Agenda - May 7, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by The Grand Nudger - May 7, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Carnavon - May 8, 2012 at 7:00 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Jovian - May 7, 2012 at 4:26 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by DeeTee - May 7, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by ElDinero - May 7, 2012 at 6:08 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by popeyespappy - May 7, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 8, 2012 at 10:11 am
RE: Evolution in action - by NoMoreFaith - May 8, 2012 at 10:25 am
RE: Evolution in action - by FallentoReason - May 7, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Minimalist - May 7, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Cyberman - May 7, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by The Grand Nudger - May 8, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Jovian - May 8, 2012 at 9:02 am
RE: Evolution in action - by Phil - May 8, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: Evolution in action - by DeeTee - May 8, 2012 at 5:08 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Jackalope - May 8, 2012 at 5:15 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Thor - May 8, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Jovian - May 8, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by ElDinero - May 8, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Jovian - May 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Evolution in action - by Anomalocaris - May 8, 2012 at 5:43 pm

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