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10 Arguments Against Hell
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RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell
(May 7, 2012 at 7:39 am)BrotherMagnet Wrote: The crimes of a sinner are not eternal, they are committed in a finite reality and lifetime.

Logically if God is eternal than he should be able to forgive during all of eternity, not just during a person's lifetime. This is why the whole idea of hell is laughable with a "loving god". Once you go to hell there is no chance of parole, there is not even a chance to repent. That is sick. We have a better system of justice right here on earth than this eternal God you love so much.

And if you describe hell as just being in a "place" separate from God this whole dogma of choosing where you want to go during this lifetime makes no since. This is the version hell my church went with. Yes, it sounds less scary, but it's not.

I myself would rather live with truth than lies and if "God" is truth and the "word", whatever that means than surely even an atheist is actually unknowingly choosing to go to heaven(it's not real by the way). What version of heaven and hell are we going with today?

Really the entire difference between atheists and the religious is that we can't believe dogma given without any evidence. Anything dogmatic and authoritarian does not deserve worship or belief. Truth is not dogmatic. Truth is ever changing in the patterns around us.

There is no evidence for a personal God so I cannot believe in it. There is no evidence for even an impersonal God. Maybe after we die our "energy" stays whole and we move on to another place. This is like anything else that is probably not true the same as those unicorns I refuse to believe in.

Sins are committed against an eternal God, and if one does not find forgiveness through Christ those sins remain against an eternal God, for eternity. As long as the sin exist so does the punishment which is eternal.

The rest of your statements are not Biblical, they are your opinion you want God to exist by, breaking news, God does not work with your mortal opinions. His will stands for eternity, in His omniscience His plan is perfect, your opinion changes nothing.

Guess what, evidence is not part of God's plan, at least the evidence you're looking for, and God is unchanging, so it is you that has to change, God will never come down to your level of unreasonable thinking.
(May 7, 2012 at 5:23 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Can any of you Christians explain to me why exactly some free beings freely reject God while other freely accept him? What's the underlying cause that causes some to reject and other's to accept?

Shouldn't you be able to answer that question, it is the reality you are living in.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 2, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Welsh cake - May 2, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by DeistPaladin - May 2, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 3, 2012 at 2:33 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Neo-Scholastic - May 3, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 3, 2012 at 5:19 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Neo-Scholastic - May 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 3, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Neo-Scholastic - May 3, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Napoléon - May 3, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Neo-Scholastic - May 3, 2012 at 12:24 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by padraic - May 3, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 3, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by DeeTee - May 3, 2012 at 6:45 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 3, 2012 at 7:17 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by DeeTee - May 3, 2012 at 10:03 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 3, 2012 at 11:56 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Engel - May 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by DeistPaladin - May 4, 2012 at 8:57 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by DeeTee - May 3, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by DeeTee - May 4, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by C Rod - May 4, 2012 at 2:12 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 4, 2012 at 2:43 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Abishalom - May 4, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 7, 2012 at 6:09 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by simplexity - May 7, 2012 at 7:39 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 7, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Welsh cake - May 4, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by DeeTee - May 6, 2012 at 3:18 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by DeistPaladin - May 6, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by KichigaiNeko - May 6, 2012 at 5:41 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Ace Otana - May 7, 2012 at 7:01 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 7, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Welsh cake - May 7, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 7, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 8, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 7, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 7, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Jackalope - May 7, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 7, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by YahwehIsTheWay - May 7, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by simplexity - May 7, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Welsh cake - May 8, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 8, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by jess_essential - May 8, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by BethK - May 14, 2012 at 4:58 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 14, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by BethK - May 14, 2012 at 10:40 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 15, 2012 at 12:38 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by BethK - May 15, 2012 at 4:19 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Aiza - May 15, 2012 at 4:44 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 15, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by BethK - May 16, 2012 at 2:22 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Aiza - May 16, 2012 at 4:17 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 17, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by simplexity - May 8, 2012 at 8:47 pm
10 Arguments Against Hell - by el_presidente - May 8, 2012 at 9:52 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by ace1ventura - May 9, 2012 at 2:49 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by C Rod - May 9, 2012 at 10:51 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 9, 2012 at 11:00 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 9, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by genkaus - May 9, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Neo-Scholastic - May 14, 2012 at 10:30 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 9, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by DeistPaladin - May 9, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Ace Otana - May 9, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by C Rod - May 9, 2012 at 11:23 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Faith No More - May 9, 2012 at 3:30 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Anomalocaris - May 9, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 9, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Welsh cake - May 9, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - May 9, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 9, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Norfolk And Chance - May 11, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 11, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Norfolk And Chance - May 12, 2012 at 8:13 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Zen Badger - May 12, 2012 at 8:16 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Aiza - May 12, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 12, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Aiza - May 13, 2012 at 3:10 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Zen Badger - May 13, 2012 at 5:29 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Cinjin - May 9, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Annik - May 9, 2012 at 4:40 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Welsh cake - May 10, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Aiza - May 10, 2012 at 4:16 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Godschild - May 10, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Ace Otana - May 10, 2012 at 5:53 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Welsh cake - May 11, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Aiza - May 11, 2012 at 6:50 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Welsh cake - May 12, 2012 at 5:28 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by BethK - May 14, 2012 at 4:12 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Adjusted Sanity - May 14, 2012 at 4:28 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Aiza - May 14, 2012 at 5:23 am
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Neo-Scholastic - May 15, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: 10 Arguments Against Hell - by Welsh cake - May 17, 2012 at 4:40 pm

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