(May 7, 2012 at 5:51 pm)DeeTee Wrote: So you attack those innocent of such actions?
I don't think it constitutes an "attacK' if I fail to show respect for your beliefs or your "holy book".
Quote:The term 'brainwashed' really is a two edged sword and deoends upon a person's perspective.
How so? Because I demand evidence before believing outlandish claims? Because I acknowledge the overwhelming evidence that supports evolution? This constututes being "brainwashed" to you? On the contrary, you are the one who is brainwashed. If you had been born in Pakistan I have no doubt that today you would be praying to Allah. You would also believe that Mohammed was his prophet and you would be fanatical regarding the "truth" of the Koran. You see, your religious beliefs are determined by where you are born and what those around you believe. On the other hand, if I had been born in Pakistan I would still be an atheist.
So which of us is truly brainwashed?
Quote:Since "God" is an imaginary being,
Quote:You have asserted that, not proven it true.
Since you can't provide any evidence that this god is real, it is perfectly reasonable to consider him a figment of the imagination. I can assert that "God" is imaginary with the same certainty I would assert that werewolves are imaginary.
Quote: Sadly for you, changed lives for over 2,000 years,
"Changed lives"? How so? And even if someone's life changes, how does that prove the existence of your deity?
Quote:miracles
And here we go. Okay, provide evidence of a "miracle". And I'm talking about something verifiable. Just reference ONE instance where people prayed for someone to have a missing limb regenerate and it grew back. Give ONE instance where people prayed for a paralyzed person to walk and they got up and did so. I'm betting you have nothing like that.
Quote: and other acts for the same length of time disprove your assertion.
What "other acts"? Are you talking about where Jesus shows up on toast?
Quote:All you are describing is not the work of 'science' but men using God given determination, their God given intelligence, using God given raw materials, to produce those items you claim were done by science.
What I described was the results of hard working men and women who used science to make possible great achievements. Your imaginary deity had nothing to do with it.
Quote:Science is an imaginary entity and does not exist and contains no such abilities or capibilities to produce what you have claimed to have been the work of science.
Science doesn't exist?

Quote:What I see are CREATED HUMANS doing the work.
Yes, people do the work. And you seem to think your deity creates people. Do you think he creates everything?
Quote:Baseless assertion. You have any evidence to support this claim?
Quote:Yes but you do not accept it as evidence
Well, let's see it anyway. Whatcha got? Or do you prefer not to reveal it because it's incredibly weak evidence?
Quote: but then you do not have any evidence for an alternative source for those items.
I don't need any evidence. I'm not the one making a claim. YOU are the one telling us that "God" created all the natural resources. Unless you can provide us with evidence, your claim can be dismissed as the bullshit it is.
Quote: You have to use theory and faith.
Yes, we use scientific theories. These are not guesses or conjecture. And we also use reasonable faith. For example, I have reasonable faith that the sun will rise in the east tomorrow. This is "faith" based on experience and knowledge. Unlike you, I don't have blind faith. Big difference.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?