(May 12, 2012 at 5:43 am)genkaus Wrote:Well, if your particular faith tells you that taking your own life for the pursuit of the afterlife is acceptable, yes, you can do that. Jainism, for example, recommends fasting to the death as a means to archive nirvana.(May 12, 2012 at 4:10 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: A vow of poverty, in my view, is a rather hard one to take. Of course, if your aims are not on this world, it's rather easy.
If your aims are not of this world, then you should just die already. The vow of poverty may be easy or it may be hard, but it is definitely disgusting.
In my opinion, however, you should "forfeit" your life, not take it outright. Meaning, you should be able to lay it down when the time comes, as a testimony to your disattachment of this world.
This would be a lot more meaningful, don't you think, my shallow friend?
The vow of poverty, which has been taken by many dervishes and people of faith who were renown philosophers, poets and bards, has helped them to archive their aims of being philosophers, poets and bards, in particular. But their ultimate aim was to archive afterlife in a more exalted state than most other souls.
Philosophy, poetry and song were tools for them to spread the faith, and those they have used in very fine ways.
Quote:Taptuk'un tapusunda, kul olduk kapusundaTranslation:
Yunus miskin çiğ idik, piştik Elhamdü-lillah
Quote:At the house of Taptuk, we became a servant at his door,
Yunus was yet raw, we were hardened, praise be to God.
Here, the great dervish Yunus Emre, speaks of his journey to the dargah of Taptuk Emre. He there, carried wood to his dargah for fourty years, prayed, wrote poetry and learned the arts of tasawwuf. He became "hardened", his ultimate aim to archive his ultimate goal. He also took this vow of poverty to sever the connection of worldly things and worldly needs in favor of a higher purpose he set before himself, that he only could archive with this vow.
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