RE: Best ways to discuss religion: logical arguments?
May 12, 2012 at 10:02 pm
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2012 at 10:07 pm by JesusShaves.)
(May 12, 2012 at 9:32 pm)padraic Wrote: Of course not ALL believers are allergic to logic,just a distressingly large number.(try having a debate with a top theologian)
People whose beliefs are formed and maintained without the use of reason and credible evidence are impervious to such tools.
Whew! that video was hard to make it though. I need something a bit more dumbed down sorry.
Sure my mom is where I got my early ideas of logic and reason, she thinks that aliens have landed. Thanks mostly due to that crap they put on the history channel now about religions being inspired by aliens. I think that I could prove that aliens are not here logically to her. Though I have failed to so far she doesn't outright reject logical things.
By "top theologian" do you mean people like Kent Hovind? The ones I've seen in public debates do little more then repack that same stuff that was on the video you sent over and over.
So what if not reason and evidence are ideas of God based on?
Does that mean that it's better to use that thing they base there ideas on to build off when talking to them?
Or should I be making a attempt to introduce them into logic and reason?
Thanks
(May 12, 2012 at 9:43 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: The idea that theists are by definition illogical seems common here, but incorrect. You will find many theists who are rational, some on this forum. You will also find many atheists here who believe themselves to be rational but are deluded.
but I think that you would agree that most of them don't deal with things by using logic.
I know how to talk to people with logic and prove things, and if I run into some of the ones that are logical then no problem at all. I'm wondering how to talk to the ones that avoid this way of thinking.
