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Best ways to discuss religion: logical arguments?
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RE: Best ways to discuss religion: logical arguments?
Hey welcome, jesus Shaves (good one) Big Grin

This is true not everyone is logical theist atheist alike. I would believe from my experience on other forums the vast majority logical folk are atheists.

I cannot remember correctly the exact time that satan 'appeared' as an equal to god, except in Job.. That this was the serpent in Eden, a talking snake. Well they did have a bounty of hallucinogenics back then, and of course this info would scare the dickens out of non book readers.

There was of course the Talmud
The gnostic.

http://gnosis.org/genesis.html
Little gnostic info for you:


http://gnosis.org/genesis.html

"The Serpent of Wisdom

The sin of Eve, so the orthodox tell us, was that she listened to the serpent, who persuaded her that the fruit of the tree would make her and Adam wise, without any deleterious side-effects. It was Eve who then seduced the righteously reluctant Adam to join her in this act of disobedience, and thus together they brought about the fall of humanity.

A Gnostic treatise, The Testimony of Truth, tells a different story. While repeating the words of the orthodox version of Genesis, the Gnostic source states that "the serpent was wiser than all the animals that were in Paradise." After extolling the wisdom of the serpent, the treatise casts serious aspersions on the creator: "What sort is he then, this God?" Then come some of the answers to the rhetorical question. The motive of the creator in punishing Adam was envy, for the creator envied Adam, who by eating the fruit would acquire knowledge (gnosis). Neither did the creator seem quite omniscient when he asked of Adam: "Where are you?" The creator has shown himself repeatedly to be "an envious slanderer," a jealous God, who inflicts cruel punishments on those who transgress his capricious orders and commandments. The treatise comments: "But these are the things he said (and did) to those who believe in him and serve him." The implication clearly presents itself that with a God like this, one needs no enemies. "


The homosexual gig - maybe a misinterpretation (aha) of beware of extremism. Although the more commonly read Leviticus would say na.

Have a good time by the way.
"Religion is comparable to Childhood neurosis" Sigmond Freud

"If one wishes to form a true estimate of the full grandeur of religion, one must keep in mind what it undertakes to do for men. It gives them information about the source and origin of the universe, it assures them of protection and final happiness amid the changing vicissitudes of life, and it guides their thoughts and motions by means of precepts which are backed by the whole force of its authority."

SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis

"Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires."

SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis

"Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck." George Carlin

"The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation." Elizabeth Cady Stanton - American Suffragist (1815-1902)

"Who loves kitty" Robin Williams live on Broadway DVD

"You cannot petition the lord with prayer" Jim Morrison The Soft Parade.
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RE: Best ways to discuss religion: logical arguments? - by LiberalHearted - May 12, 2012 at 11:06 pm

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