Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 20, 2025, 5:27 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
To Christians who aren't creationists
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
(May 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm)Ryft Wrote: Using the expression "chucked out" assumes the very thing to be proved (which is illegitimate); in other words, to assert that a book was chucked out of the canon is to assert that it was originally part of the canon, and it will not do to simply assume the very thing to be proved.

I didn't realize it was under dispute. It was part of the Septuagint, which was in use by the earliest Christians, and was later translated in Latin and used by the Church.

Martin Luther took those books out and labelled them as "Apocrypha", suitable for pious readings but non-canonical. Eventually Protestants ended up going back to the Hebrew Bible in order to form their OTs, instead of using the Septuagint.

Also I was discussing things like Jesus stopping the stoning of a woman, a passage which some Protestant Bibles have removed as it isn't part of the "oldest manuscripts". It is, however, part of the oldest canons and is still considered canonical by the Church, as it always will be.

I don't think the Protestant approach is wrong, per se, and their work into translating directly from the Hebrew Bible and looking into finding the oldest surviving Gospel manuscripts has improved Scripture quality for Catholics as well. I just wonder where they might draw the line. Undecided
Mary Immaculate, star of the morning
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.

Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.

Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.


Heart
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Welsh cake - April 24, 2012 at 6:08 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 24, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Re: To Christians who aren't creationists - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 7:16 pm
Re: RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by fr0d0 - April 24, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 24, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 1:50 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 8:39 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 24, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - April 24, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Minimalist - April 25, 2012 at 1:49 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 5:29 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Drich - April 25, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Minimalist - April 25, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Shell B - April 25, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - April 25, 2012 at 11:44 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Minimalist - April 25, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Welsh cake - April 27, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by DeeTee - May 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 3, 2012 at 11:07 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by DeeTee - May 3, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 4, 2012 at 3:14 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 5, 2012 at 4:31 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 7, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 7, 2012 at 10:25 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 7, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 7, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Tobie - May 8, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Aiza - May 12, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Ryft - May 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Aiza - May 13, 2012 at 3:23 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Tobie - May 8, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Annik - May 8, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Re: To Christians who aren't creationists - by fr0d0 - May 8, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 12, 2012 at 3:32 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 13, 2012 at 7:07 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 18, 2012 at 7:51 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 9:28 pm
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 19, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: To Christians who aren't creationists - by padraic - May 19, 2012 at 4:06 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Christians vs Christians (yec) Fake Messiah 52 13501 January 31, 2019 at 2:08 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Is it possible to avoid masterbation or nocturnal emission if you aren't married ? The Wise Joker 63 13927 January 31, 2017 at 8:11 pm
Last Post: Rev. Rye
  Why do Christians become Christians? SteveII 168 42891 May 20, 2016 at 8:43 pm
Last Post: drfuzzy
  the real reason creationists hate evolution? drfuzzy 22 9480 October 6, 2015 at 11:39 pm
Last Post: dyresand
  Christians. Prove That You Are Real/True Christians Nope 155 64671 September 1, 2015 at 1:26 pm
Last Post: Pyrrho
  Do we have any creationists here? Lemonvariable72 85 21832 April 1, 2015 at 9:15 pm
Last Post: watchamadoodle
  Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters" Silver 170 33317 December 20, 2014 at 9:58 pm
Last Post: Chad32
  For Creationists. Lemonvariable72 95 28728 November 21, 2014 at 8:55 pm
Last Post: ThomM
  Why don't Christians/Creationists attack luingistic science? Simon Moon 2 1717 May 25, 2014 at 11:39 am
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  The first Christians weren't Bible Christians Phatt Matt s 60 20126 March 26, 2014 at 10:26 am
Last Post: rightcoaster



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)