(May 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm)Ryft Wrote: Using the expression "chucked out" assumes the very thing to be proved (which is illegitimate); in other words, to assert that a book was chucked out of the canon is to assert that it was originally part of the canon, and it will not do to simply assume the very thing to be proved.
I didn't realize it was under dispute. It was part of the Septuagint, which was in use by the earliest Christians, and was later translated in Latin and used by the Church.
Martin Luther took those books out and labelled them as "Apocrypha", suitable for pious readings but non-canonical. Eventually Protestants ended up going back to the Hebrew Bible in order to form their OTs, instead of using the Septuagint.
Also I was discussing things like Jesus stopping the stoning of a woman, a passage which some Protestant Bibles have removed as it isn't part of the "oldest manuscripts". It is, however, part of the oldest canons and is still considered canonical by the Church, as it always will be.
I don't think the Protestant approach is wrong, per se, and their work into translating directly from the Hebrew Bible and looking into finding the oldest surviving Gospel manuscripts has improved Scripture quality for Catholics as well. I just wonder where they might draw the line.

Mary Immaculate, star of the morning
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.
Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.
Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.
