(May 12, 2012 at 6:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It seems your settling for a lower morality and saying that's all that is needed. But to some, they seek a higher honor and dignity, and the higher honor seems to be linked to a metaphysical being.
Well see that too is just a subjective viewpoint on morality, attributing levels of "higher" and "lower" morality. What then defines each? Is it just "god is higher morality, you are lower morality," if even the most commonly reviled ideas are condoned by god [like slavery and murder]? See, the problem with "morality by god" is that morality is a standard that affects an individual's life. Either yours, or the person/people you are interacting with. They are a tangible identity, and you can see the effects wrought on them by your decisions. God is NOT a tangible identity, it is an idea, a suspicion, a faith, a belief. You are applying morality from the simple standard of "because I believe." Morality from the self, at least, can have a standard that is based on reality, on something that exists, or at least, existed. God to this day is not proven to exist. People just have "feelings" about god...and as is evidenced by most of the people on this site and pretty much all the world for that matter, this feeling is far from universal. If I take god's morality on what it is, it is not an objective viewpoint, because the idea of god itself is not objective; it is very much subjective, and therefore no "higher" nor "lower" than morality based on your own experiences, wouldn't you agree?