Morality: Where do you get yours?

[genkaus]

I disagree with that God is not proven to exist. But I think we all acknowledge higher morality then the base morality (don't steal, don't hurt others...) etc, and we do that when we see heroism in movies for example. The heroism in many movies is harder to imitate and follow, then the religious morality your talking about, but we still acknowledge the high honor and morality within that.

No, not necessarily. I often find myself rooting for the villain.

Ofcourse morality is linked to our experience, but I talked about it in another thread, that even when we are wrong about issues, it doesn't mean it's totally divorced from God's morality, but that there is more correct view we are not twisted from.

That is the error of idealism. Rather than considering the notion that the correct view does not exist yet, but we are getting to it slowly, it argues that the correct view exists and we have a corrupted version of it. This idea is the basis for the supposed inherently sinful nature of humans.

Also, just because something is not universal, doesn't mean there is no right or wrong answer. For example, killing apostates is advocated by both overwhelming majority of Islamic scholars. Yet we can say it is wrong in a definitive conclusive matter.

If we go by universal, some people don't acknowledge morality at all. Should you then do away with your morality just because some others don't?

At the end, to me, morality makes sense when there is an eternal basis to it and it's linked to that eternal basis, and that possible levels of morality, even ones beyond our capabilities, are encompassed by this eternal basis.

The error in your argument is the requirement of universality. Facts and truths about reality are not universal, why should morality, which guides our actions in that context, be so?