RE: Morality: Where do you get yours?
May 14, 2012 at 11:31 am
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2012 at 11:54 am by genkaus.)
(May 14, 2012 at 10:54 am)ChadWooters Wrote: It would seem that any ethical system claiming to be objective must meet certain criteria. I have put forward a list of such criteria. Would anyone care to add to or qualify the following list?
Criteria for a Universal Moral Standard (UMS):
Identifies a universally accepted value.
Defines who qualifies as a moral agent.
Provides a means for moral agents to recognize moral choices and obligations.
Serves as an effective guide for directing the moral agent toward achieving the accepted valued.
Applies at all times and to all choices relevant to creating and preserving the accepted value.
Rejection of the universal moral standard invariably undermines the accepted value.
This seems a little inspired by what I wrote about morality. Is it?
Let's see you argument one by one.
(May 14, 2012 at 10:54 am)ChadWooters Wrote: It would seem that any ethical system claiming to be objective must meet certain criteria. I have put forward a list of such criteria. Would anyone care to add to or qualify the following list?
Criteria for a Universal Moral Standard (UMS):
You make an unjustified shift from objective to universal here. As Mystic pointed out, that is a mistake. Objective means based on facts. Universal means something that applies to all places at all times. Facts are not necessarily true at all places or at all times.
(May 14, 2012 at 10:54 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Identifies a universally accepted value.
This would be your greatest challenge. A universally accepted value would be accepted by every person who ever lived and would ever live. There is no known value that fills the criteria.
one way to get around it is presenting a value that should be accepted by everyone and proving that those who don't are being irrational. That would require you to have a rational justification for this value.
(May 14, 2012 at 10:54 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Defines who qualifies as a moral agent.
Provides a means for moral agents to recognize moral choices and obligations.
Serves as an effective guide for directing the moral agent toward achieving the accepted valued.
Applies at all times and to all choices relevant to creating and preserving the accepted value.
Rejection of the universal moral standard invariably undermines the accepted value.
These are more or less okay, except for the prior assumption of universality.