I am an orthodox Christian, ask me a question!

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2. JP here, and Arcanus elsewhere have explained this so very clearly no one has an excuse not to get it. THERE IS NO NEED for any 'extra evidence/ proof'. It's already there and finished

Bullshit. You only think it was clearly explained because you're predisposed to agree with the conclusion and are willing to make the assumptions JP has to make, and we flatly refuse the assumptions because there is no evidence. TAG is a fucking useless argument for God, it fails.

Exactly. You FLATLY REFUSE for NO VALID REASON.

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Evidence is the only thing that allows us to differentiate between two equally unproven assumptions.

You may not like the fact that we insist upon using the scientific method but we do insist upon it, it is the only reliable, consistent, open, repeatable, falsifiable method that we as a species have ever devised that allows us to differentiate between fact and fiction.

LMAO

And we have pointed out precisely why that is absurd: http://atheistforums.org/thread-1540-pos...l#pid25166

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Your beliefs are not backed by any concrete evidence 1 but instead are based on ancient beliefs and assumptions 2. You can argue assumptions till your face turned blue and you will still be where you originally started from 3. Arguing from a presupposition that god exist is what I call ass backward logic and is therefore not valid in this forum 4. Basing his existence on a bunch of apologists interpretations of ancient script does not solidify your case one iota 5. Nor does trying to misrepresent science by creating ID and calling it a scientific fact based on your assumptions 6.

1. There's that absurdity again
2. Based on personal faith actually
3. It's pretty hard logic not assumption
4. If people stubbournly refuse to consider logic then that's their problem
5. The fact that you can't refute them shows that it does
6. Where did I do that?