RE: Climate catastrophe isn't so certain
May 15, 2012 at 12:46 pm
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2012 at 12:47 pm by orogenicman.)
(May 14, 2012 at 3:07 pm)Chuck Wrote:(May 14, 2012 at 6:46 am)orogenicman Wrote: In fact, there has been plenty of reaction by engineers. Those levees around New Orleans didn't build themselves.
The suprebly adaquate levees in Irrawaddy delta where 200,000+ people drowned in 2008 didn't built themselves, not did anyone else build them.
As to the levees in New Orlean, they didn't build themselves. But were they adaquately built, as is perfectly possible with 1950 technology, to withstand the consequences of a Katrina like storm, also amply predicted back in 1960s?
(May 14, 2012 at 1:15 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Also have a look at rainfall. India gets heaps and has the highest arable land.
India has at least has conquerored famine since the British left. So added rainfall and prosumably increased food production probably won't reduce the background casaulty.
But what about added casaulty? Added rain fall to India in the 21st century will comes from the monsoon in Indian ocean, and much of the monsoon rain arrives by cyclones. 5 cyclones in the drier 20th century already killed 100,000 people each. As yet there seem to be nothing like adaquate plans to protect the Northern Indian ocean basin against the sort of monsoon seen in the drier 20th century. What is additional casualty to be expected from India's more bountiful rainfall?
The issue was whether these climate events had resulted in a reaction by engineers. The claim was that there was no reaction. The evidence is to the contrary. Whether the reaction was adequate to protecting cities and farmland from these massive events is another issue. That's all I'm saying.
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"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
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