(May 16, 2012 at 9:45 am)Welsh cake Wrote: Okay, so we've had a lot of apologetic arguments from theists that you can't sin in Heaven for various reasons.
All of them ignore Satan and a third of heaven falling away from grace and perfection.
Seems that our Christian members cannot accept or fathom that they'll eventually fuck up and be cast out of god's presence when faced with an eternity of endless potential moments in time to fuck up and allow sinful thoughts and desires to control them. Hell is inevitable, its only a question of when you'll get sent there.
After a googolplex god's kingdom will eventually collapse. Sin, it would seem, is far more powerful than the inferior loving god and does a better job of drawing all men to it and downward forever.
The entire plan of God is to prove that love will triumph over evil, and that love will reign eternal.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
