(May 18, 2012 at 9:19 am)average Wrote: The scriptures also say this.
1...stone troublesome teenagers to death.
2...stone adulterers to death
4..stone to death anyone that works on the holy day
5...those that don't work, don't eat
6...those with deficient eyesight must not be allowed near the altar.
7..judge not lest yee be judged.
The Scriptures when taken in their entirety actually ban 1, 2, and 3 (which is why stoning is unknown as a punishment within Christianity or Christian cultures); and 6 is no longer even relevant to the Jews or to the Christians, along with any other laws about the running of the temple, as said temple has been destroyed and sacrifices no longer made since the year 70. In the case that Israel does rebuild the temple, I suppose this question can be reopened.
At best they can bring back 5 and 7.
(May 18, 2012 at 5:04 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: It is a fact that many Christians DO use Leviticus for their persecution and hatred.I don't hate anyone and I certainly never persecuted anyone. Now, the majority of Christians are Catholic; and the CCC itself cites Genesis, Romans, 1 Corinthians, 1 Timothy and the Persona humana. I think when discussing Christianity its best to use the largest/oldest traditions first, especially if you are addressing a post to "the Christians"
You're different, you use tradition to justify hatred and persecution. You're all Christian.
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It would be the entire thing, NoMore. Not just 1 line out of context, and not just 1-2 lines out of context. Read the entirety of Matthew 5. If you ever bothered to read the entirety of it, I think you'd instantly know why no Christians have ever followed Levitical law. This very question is also explicitly spelled out and answered in the NT for those who have trouble understanding, but I won't ask you to go that far.
Even if we did ignore the vast majority of the NT and took the internet atheists' interpretation of a single line of Matthew 5, it still would have no bearing since OT law never applied to Gentiles even within the OT. This holds true similarly for Jewish folk today iirc, with Moses' law being cultural laws given to Jewish folk; and Noahide laws being spiritual/moral laws binding on all people.
(May 18, 2012 at 6:12 am)aleialoura Wrote: I grew up as an intellectual slave to idol worshiping Catholicism.
You obviously believed whatever historical bullshit they fed you. Sad, but now, be educated about the real story. Here, I'll help you...
Ever heard of the "Office of the Same Sex Union" or "Order of Uniting Two Men"?
They were Catholic practices, so tell me again about how Church tradition is so mighty and absolute.
Sacred Tradition dates to the Apostolic Era, not to the 10th century,as you already know, having been well instructed in Catholicism. Also Adelphopoiesis isn't at all a same-sex marriage as we understand it, so Boswell is taking a lot of liberties there. It actually translates to "Brother-making" and was made to supplant the practice of being "blood brothers".
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Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.
Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.
Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.