Gay Marriage: Why the christians need to STFU about it

[LarissaAnn]

Sure they might not have had same sex marriage in their society, but it was not for reasons of "preserving the sanctity of marriage" like you're trying to claim. Same sex marriage didn't exist in their society because marriage to Greek men was simply a necessary institution to where they had the convenience of their wives to run their home, bear and raise their children while they, the men, ran the society and oftentimes continued getting male booty (pun intended) on the side.

That was my point, LarissaAnn. If "doesn't believe in gay marriage" means you are persecuting gay people, than the Greeks persecuted homosexuals in spite of having, by any measure, a very gay friendly society. Get it?

You can't really compare an Ancient marriage or Ancient society to our times today, it's a weak argument.

Marriage in OUR times and certainly in religious terms, means a sacred bonding of two people as one or in less religious terms, two people sharing their lives together in loving companionship.

The Ancient Greeks did NOT see marriage this way.

You can't call it persecution when the role of "spouse" was infinitely below in status to the role of a "man" as it was in Ancient Greece. Why would an Ancient Greek man choose to be a spouse of another man when a spouse was seen as the lowly home keeper? It's better than to be both men of status and mutual companions, while your wives were at home keeping your house like they were supposed to be. If anyone was persecuted against in Ancient Greece it was obviously women, not gays.

NOW in our society today where much has changed over the centuries, a marriage is formed and kept on the basis of companionship and love, it IS persecution to demand laws enacted to prevent two people of the same sex who love each other from unifying that relationship as a marriage, just because a specific group objects on a religious standpoint. Christianity did not invent marriage, it invented CHRISTIAN marriage. As seen in the Ancient Greek example there have been many different types of marriage throughout the years in different religions, customs, and locations. Same sex couples aren't asking to have a CATHOLIC marriage (or in most cases even a Christian one) they're just asking to have the GOVERNMENT recognize their relationship as a form of marriage for the reasons of equal acceptance in society and for the legal reasons that go with joining your life with another person's. Religion has nothing to do with it.

I know you Catholics (and non-Catholic Christians too) dream of a world where everyone on Earth will convert to your religion and the world will become one great big Catholic family unified in one faith because Jesus said go make diciples etc. etc. but that's just not going to happen for MANY reasons...most importantly that everyone has the right to choose the faith (or none at all) that they feel in their heart and if that faith and customs, ways and beliefs don't match yours, get over it!

So until you stop trying to get the government to make laws that FORCE your morals onto others people, especially those who don't follow your faith, (and stop the MANY MANY other cruelties the Catholic church has committed over recent years) then people are always going to have a beef with your fatih. In the same sex marriage arena, Catholicism's actions and protests towards good people who just want to live their lives together is mean, narcissistic, and hurtful and a FAR cry from the grace and love that religions claim to have and practice.