RE: Toddler sings "Aint no homo gonna make it to heaven." Church crowd cheers
May 30, 2012 at 11:49 am
(May 30, 2012 at 11:32 am)Tobie Wrote:It won't here, but obviously it will change marriage for you, him, her or some other person that lives in the US. It's going to devaluate this important institution more than it has been devaluated now in the US.(May 30, 2012 at 11:27 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, they need to be actually relevant to society at first. Marriage is relevant and essential to society. Homosexuals are not in a position to change marriage for everyone.
They are a group of people that have come to become a group only recently.
I don't know whether they possess the qualities of a minority, or whether they ever did. They might classify as a community, perhaps, but saying homosexuals are a "minority" is like saying that...scene kids are a minority and should be given minority rights.
Pffft...
As I've already explained, this is not just about you. Obviously, there are people that actually value the nature of marriage, and do not want it to go wild and be accessible to people that have no relevance to the institution of marriage.
Yes, homosexuals have no relevance to the progress of society, unless they discard their homosexual identities and be in unison with the rest of the society, at which point, they become the majority and may marry women, or men if they're lesbian, and actually contribute to the future of society.
Homosexuals getting married is not going to change marriage for you is it? Heterosexuals can still get married if homosexuals can.
So you're saying that homosexuals can't contribute to the future of society unless they suppress their feelings? You're fucking deluded.
I'll be honest with you. My view of the American society, and recently, many European societies has been along these lines: society moves away from the values that have brought it here, and moves to the values of flesh, money and desire.
Homosexuals have long campaigned to get their desires recognized as "normal" by society. Here, they use marriage as their weapon. For we view marriage as a sacred thing. Or used to. We view it as the foundation of the family, the real family, the one that has evolved into the core family structure that we know, which is the thing that actually contributes to society.
On the other hand, you and probably the homosexuals that you support, tend to view any value that mankind used to consider sacred, like family, marriage, good behavior, respect for customs and etc. as backwards, the foolish counter-culture movement, the excessive individualisation of society. You even go as far as to state "what is the state doing in my marriage?" while the state actually recognizes your marrige, and any and all civil servants(here marriages are performed by them) or priests, get their authority to perform a marriage not from God, but from the state itself.
For the state is there to preserve society, to aid it, to lead it.
And the state in your country doesn't deem it fit to grant homosexuals a federal right to marriage, as they are obviously not relevant to it. Individual states, well, might grant them these privilages, but the federal government has to consider the wellbeing of society regardless.
Homosexuals are simply another front of the counter-culture movement, and have, in my opinion, nothing to do with human rights.
For human rights are there to protect humans, and therefore, protect the institutions relevant to the survival of humans.
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