The Brain=Mind Fallacy

[Brian37]

Philosophy and science aren't mutually exclusive. Science and philosophy feed into each other. Epistemology and logic, for example, are relevant to science. The results science yields can also inform philosophy. I'm curious as to how some people imagine science working with no philosophy. If people are not familiar with making sound and valid arguments, that would surely be to the detriment to science. I don't agree with the view that science is somehow updated philosophy.

Science is a very particular subset of philosophy that has been both uniquely and extraordinarily successful. But other parts of philosophy will continue to exist so long as men feel the need to overreach his own knowledge and teach what he does not know at the expense of his fellow men.

No, one lead to the other and the newer replaced the older. No one that has a car who needs to drive to the next state is going to take a horse and buggy unless they are Amish.

Philosophy is merely a fancy word for brainstorming, but it is totally meaningless now that scientists have much more than their thoughts alone.

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I may have already said it in this thread, but I will say it again.

"Philosophy" is to science what an abacus is to math today.

Science is a tool, not a philosophy. Just like a hammer is a tool and not the house itself.

I hate the word "philosophy". It is a stupid word to use for today's much higher standards in science.


"Philosophy" merely means to think about something. Ideas can and do lead to real things, certainly. But merely saying "I have an idea" or "I think we should do it this way" MEANS NOTHING now, it does not work as an objective.

Philosophy is mere dreaming while method is applied universally. We don't need philosophy now. The only thing it is good for now is a study in human history of thought. It did produce some good guesses, but there was also tons of bad philosophy too. Plato's philosophy of "essences" still plagues humanity today.

I warn people not to get stuck on that word and it should NOT be confused with modern science.

Why? Because religion and politics are also philosophies and once you start treating something as dogmatic as those, you fuck up the guide of method and by treating it as a philosophy and not a tool, can can lead scientists to become dogmatic too.

Method isn't a philosophy, it is a tool. When you treat it as a tool that maximizes your ability to go where the evidence leads and not where you want it to go.

We DO NOT NEED old thought now. Once you have a cell phone you'd be stupid to want to use what Edison did, and not all of Edison's inventions went somewhere. Philosophy is only good for a study in human psychology and history of thought. We have modern science now.