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Dinosaurs and Man
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RE: Dinosaurs and Man
(June 4, 2012 at 1:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: If during the creation the earth was close to a black hole then scientificly it would work.

ROFLOL Wow - that's a keeper!

Ten minutes later...

Ok, now I've stopped laughing somewhat and managed to wipe the tears from my cheeks:

I realise that you are trying to sell the idea that, since time runs differently in regions of extreme gravity, therefore the Earth could have been made in the six days that are written in the story. Do you realise that a black hole's gravitational effects are exactly equal to that of the star, or equivalent body, from which it formed? You only run into the problems of extreme gravity associated with black holes once you pass the event horizon which equates to the former surface of the star. Outside of that, it's as if there was an ordinary star there.

So here are the problems. To postulate a black hole in the vicinity of the Earth is to postulate a second star in the Solar System, with all the attendant effects on planetary orbits that would entail. I've just spent half an hour modelling just such a scenario, using a beautiful piece of kit called Universe Sandbox; there is no physical way of placing an object with the mass of a star anywhere near the Earth without catastrophic disruption of the whole System. Even if we start with two stars, form the planets etc, then remove the second object to get back to what we observe today, the effects on the orbits would be catastrophic. And we're not talking centuries or millennia for these effects to play out; the Solar System would be no more than an expanding mass of rogue planets headed out in different directions into the Universe within days.

However, to get the sort of effects with time that you're after, we need to be inside your black hole's event horizon, which as I said above would be below the former surface of the star. This would be exactly as bad as it sounds. The tidal effects of the gravity difference between the part of the Earth's surface closest to the hole's centre and that part which is furthest away would, in astonishingly short order, tear the planet apart, in the most literal sense.

You have so many more problems with the word "scientifically" than just the spelling.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Dinosaurs and Man - by ScienceLovesGod - June 2, 2012 at 10:51 pm
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