(June 6, 2012 at 1:40 am)LiberalHearted Wrote:(June 6, 2012 at 12:14 am)Drich Wrote: I ask that you look up the word perfection, because not all forms of 'perfection' are static. Perfection can and does incorporate change when needed. Otherwise Man would have never made it out of the garden.
God is perfect, even if He is subject to the same emotions He has allowed us to experience. Just because an emotion is undesirable does not make it any less perfect. True perfection has nothing to do with want desire, or contentment.
Lead us not to "look something" up. This is the beginning.
http://www.learnersdictionary.com/search/perfect
a : having no mistakes or flaws
b : completely correct or accurate
2 [more perfect; most perfect] : exactly right for a particular purpose, situation, or person
3 always used before a noun : complete and total — used for emphasis
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/perfect
a : being entirely without fault or defect : flawless <a perfect diamond>
b : satisfying all requirements : accurate
c : corresponding to an ideal standard or abstract concept <a perfect gentleman>
d : faithfully reproducing the original; specifically : letter-perfect
: expert, proficient <practice makes perfect>
a : pure, total
of course on the second site there is more to be read.
Bold sets your idea of god as defined in a dictionary.
No where does 'change' enter the word perfect.
2 sources.
Emotions are not perfect...read a thread on mental illnesses. Since some of the characteristics of 'mental disease' are not stoic. The DSV IV will give explanations of emotional issues...associated w/other symptoms.
Since emotions are and can be included as mental disease do we now assume god is - Narcissistic? I would say that the followers if asked w/caution not to include god would say yup.
The puter doesn't carry all of the DSM IV but. evidence, best I can find.
http://allpsych.com/disorders/dsm.html
http://allpsych.com/disorders/personalit...ssism.html
"Symptoms
The symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder revolve around a pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, and sense of entitlement. Often individuals feel overly important and will exaggerate achievements and will accept, and often demand, praise and admiration despite worthy achievements. They may be overwhelmed with fantasies involving unlimited success, power, love, or beauty and feel that they can only be understood by others who are, like them, superior in some aspect of life."
Thereby goes your conception of god.
Narcissistic folk (met a few) will never say opps, made a mistake, unless blaming someone else for it....maybe like man? sarcasm intended.
So dictionary and the DSM IV comes forward as evidence.
No wonder xtians say Never question god.
allow me to offer some clarity:
Dictionary.com
per·fect
[adj., n. pur-fikt; v. per-fekt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
conforming absolutely to the description or definition of an ideal type: a perfect sphere; a perfect gentleman.
2.
excellent or complete beyond practical or theoretical improvement: There is no perfect legal code. The proportions of this temple are almost perfect.
3.
exactly fitting the need in a certain situation or for a certain purpose: a perfect actor to play Mr. Micawber; a perfect saw for cutting out keyholes.
4.
entirely without any flaws, defects, or shortcomings: a perfect apple; the perfect crime.
5.
accurate, exact, or correct in every detail: a perfect copy.
From the WHOLE Merriam-Webster defination
1per·fect
adj \ˈpər-fikt\
Definition of PERFECT
1
a: being entirely without fault or defect : flawless <a perfect diamond> b: satisfying all requirements : accurate c: corresponding to an ideal standard or abstract concept <a perfect gentleman> d: faithfully reproducing the original; specifically: letter-perfect e: legally valid
2
: expert, proficient <practice makes perfect>
3
a: pure, total b: lacking in no essential detail : complete cobsolete: sane d: absolute, unequivocal <enjoys perfect happiness> e: of an extreme kind : unmitigated <a perfect brat> <an act of perfect foolishness>
4
obsolete: mature
5
: of, relating to, or constituting a verb form or verbal that expresses an action or state completed at the time of speaking or at a time spoken of
6
obsolete a: certain, sure b: contented, satisfied
7
of a musical interval: belonging to the consonances unison, fourth, fifth, and octave which retain their character when inverted and when raised or lowered by a half step become augmented or diminished
8
a: sexually mature and fully differentiated <a perfect insect> b: having both stamens and pistils in the same flower <a perfect flower>
Here are two examples that underscore my assertion that you have seemed to over looked in your dishonest efforts to represent this word. I originally said that not every example of the word is static. Meaning perfection or the understanding of it can change. The two bold definition provided suggest that perfection or parameters that define the state of perfection can indeed change.