(June 11, 2012 at 1:36 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Secondly, and perhaps this should be first, have you never heard of Islam? The Crusades? The battle between Catholics and Protestants? Or are you really under the impression that these things first developed after this sermon was given?No, but since the whole sermon centers around those who are uninterested in religious matters so it would be flatly ridiculous to project this sort of agenda onto it. It's just not there. You made it up. Sorry.
(June 11, 2012 at 11:48 am)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: The catholic church claims that most are catholic. Most don't believe that tripe. Which means they are not really catholic, the church is just padding its numbers while it hemorrhages its membership. The catholic church is in its death throes.
Um, no, statistically speaking most are Catholic. The Church doesn't "pad its numbers", the Church doesn't have some giant database of numbers of Catholics anywhere. Individual parishes track numbers but they have no incentive to pad numbers since those numbers determine how much money they owe to the archdiocese. Nice attempts at a no true scotsman though.
And lol, "death throes"? Oh geez.
(June 11, 2012 at 12:29 pm)Thor Wrote: Atheists don't always agree with each other? Absolutely true, in matters of politics, morality, and sports teams. But as for whether or not a god exists, atheists are 100% in agreement.
You sure? 100% Sure?
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I think self-identified Christians are more likely to agree on whether or not a God exists than self-identified atheists are!
Mary Immaculate, star of the morning
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.
Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.
Chosen before the creation began
Chosen to bring for your bridal adorning
Woe to the serpent and rescue to man.
Sinners, we honor your sinless perfection;
Fallen and weak, for your pity we plead;
Grand us the shield of your sovereign protection,
Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
Bend from your throne at the voice of our crying,
Bend to this earth which your footsteps have trod;
Stretch out your arms to us, living and dying,
Mary Immaculate, Mother of God.
