RE: The Brain=Mind Fallacy
June 12, 2012 at 3:41 pm
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2012 at 3:43 pm by Whateverist.)
(June 12, 2012 at 8:35 am)Brian37 Wrote: I think it is stupid to insist on tradition always. If evolution were static it wouldn't occur, and if language didn't evolve our species would still be grunting and cuneiform writting wouldn't have been invented and Latin wouldn't have evolved into the multiple languages it has today. And if we never invented new words we wouldn't change at all as a species.
I certainly wasn't talking about the change of the language over time. That has nothing whatsoever to do with my point. I'm just saying it is weak to duck someone's argument you disagree with by re-defining the terms. Some would call that stupid. I'll just say it is weak.
(June 12, 2012 at 8:35 am)Brian37 Wrote: If you want to argue that one topic and one word should not change, that is a better argument than using "never" as a blanket solution.
Again, more and more atheists are taking back the word "atheist" from it's long held and defined by theists as a stigma, and more and more atheists are accepting "agnostic" as being compatible with "atheist".
So to say it is never ok to redefine something is absurd, otherwise we would still be speaking old English which looks nothing like modern English.
Otherwise we would be stuck with Ancient Greek or Latin, if language didn't evolve.
You sure do rant for a long time saying not very much, but over and over. It doesn't hide the fact that you are injecting a red herring. No one is talking about language never changing. It is just the motivated changing of meanings in order to duck an honest argument that is weak if you know better but admittedly stupid if you can't tell the difference.
I just checked. Nothing else you say beyond this point does anything else but reiterate your red herring. Sadly no one is arguing the other side. If you really want to argue with something someone else has said, it is dishonest to argue something else altogether as if your being right about that had anything whatsoever to do with what is at issue. Can anyone else find anything in the rest of what he says below that doesn't just repeat his moronic: "there is nothing wrong with arguing against a point someone else is making about the mind/brain distinction by dismissing "mind" as a meaningless term .. because language changes all the time."
(June 12, 2012 at 8:35 am)Brian37 Wrote: "Gay" as a word started out as merely meaning "happy" and got re defined by bigots as a slur. If gays simply accepted the slur as a definition, they would be stuck with that slur.. But now more and more people see the word as a description of sexuality and not a negative moral judgement.
If evolution isn't stagnant why should language remain stagnant? Context does matter which is why absolutes in anything in life are not good solutions.