Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 31, 2026, 4:08 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Simple existence - Cosmological argument leading to God
#1
Simple existence - Cosmological argument leading to God
The cosmological argument if sound is useful in establishing a first cause or unmoved mover or independent non-contigent agent.

It seems however that beyond that, it hasn't proven much. For example, it hasn't proven what is the first cause, if there is multiple agents as the first cause, what it's properties, etc...

When we think of what constitutes existence, we realize that it must be simple and not complex.

Whatever existed before everything else would be what constituted and defined existence. It too had to be simple.

Now two characteristics are known automatically:

1) It's powerful
2) It's intelligent

From intelligence, we can deduce it has knowledge.

Now something about this, is that it's intelligence and power cannot be two separate things, as that would contradict reality being simple.

Finite power is not finite intelligence. But it seems to be that Ultimate Power and Ultimate Intelligence both can transcend and be one.

When we think about what constitutes transcendent power, it seems ultimate will power is included. And Ultimate Strong will power seems to imply being Ultimate Goodness, for we know of strong will power is will to do good. And when we think of what transcends and is ultimate....we ultimately are remembering one reality which is the transcendent.

Ultimate Goodness in this instance is also Ultimate Love and Ultimate Grace.

And each of these, is Ultimately GREAT. But each of these are each other. Thus independant reality is one and God.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Simple existence - Cosmological argument leading to God - by MysticKnight - June 13, 2012 at 11:57 pm
! - by Cato - June 14, 2012 at 2:39 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  An Argument Against Determinism Disagreeable 32 5428 March 13, 2026 at 9:11 pm
Last Post: Disagreeable
  The Kalam Cosmological Argument Disagreeable 123 31476 December 15, 2024 at 6:11 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  The classic ontological argument Modern Atheism 20 5057 October 3, 2024 at 12:45 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  The modal ontological argument for God Disagreeable 29 7500 August 10, 2024 at 8:57 pm
Last Post: MetisX
  The Cosmological Proof LinuxGal 53 15637 September 24, 2023 at 12:24 pm
Last Post: LinuxGal
  Proving the Existence of a First Cause Muhammad Rizvi 3 1981 June 23, 2023 at 5:50 pm
Last Post: awty
  The argument from degree LinuxGal 9 2671 January 1, 2023 at 12:14 am
Last Post: The Architect Of Fate
  The existence of God smithd 314 77843 November 23, 2022 at 10:44 pm
Last Post: LinuxGal
  Veridican Argument for the Existence of God The Veridican 14 5402 January 16, 2022 at 4:48 pm
Last Post: brewer
  A 'proof' of God's existence - free will mrj 54 17167 August 9, 2020 at 10:25 am
Last Post: Sal



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)