RE: Facing the Morally Bad Future
June 18, 2012 at 3:57 am
(This post was last modified: June 18, 2012 at 4:03 am by FallentoReason.)
Tempus Wrote:Personally, I think you're over-estimating the chances of them becoming atheists any time soon. People's deconversions take a long time, usually beginning imperceptibly. I think the youtuber 'Evid3nc3' got it right when he said we often assume the final piece in our personal puzzle, that one moment where everything 'clicked' for us, is the silver bullet which destroys (or heavily wounds, at least) faith. We forget the myriad of experiences and reasons, sometimes non-rational, that lead up to that moment. I can understand they'll have questions for you, but would it really be necessary for you to lay out your entire path of deconversion?
I've seen some of that guy's video and I'd say his analysis is spot on. The problem with my friends is that I am somehow a part/able to comment on most of those different areas that make their faith work. And because we're friends I'm sure they won't hold back and they'll most likely tap into those different sections as a means to bring me back around.
The issue here is that potentially we could go into every little detail and I could give them every last reason why I can't see any reason to believe again. I'm thinking the best thing to do is compromise and make myself look partially stupid i.e. don't bring out some of the reasons for their sake. i highly doubt that then they'll leave it there if I've left intentional holes in my reasoning...
(June 18, 2012 at 3:51 am)Godschild Wrote: @ FallentoReason, I believe that your greatest fear is that they will show you that you're the one that's on the wrong track. This tells me you're insecure in your unbelief. You are afraid that God is so strong in their lives, none of them will deconvert and cause you to pause and think about where you are in your life. It's unfair not to tell them, you are being deceitful with those you call friends, I think you know how strong their faith is and you're scared of that kind of strength.
In all honesty, I'm not out to deconvert. The reason why I'm more apathetic online is because by you theists signing up to this forum you've essentially given me the consent to speak my mind infront of you. Whether that affects you is for you to worry about quite honestly. When it comes to real life friends, they haven't asked for such treatment. Above all though, I know my friendships will be affected through the most-likely negative discussions that will follow.
As for being 'scared' of their strong faith... I've already stated and implied that my ultimate goal in life is to live by reason. If they provide the reasons for why I'm wrong and Christianity right, then so be it. I don't have a problem with that outcome.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle