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Why did God create the universe?
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 18, 2012 at 9:35 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(June 18, 2012 at 3:16 am)Godschild Wrote: Can you for once show me in scripture that God created these things: hint, you can't, not because you want, which by the way is also true, but it is not found anywhere in scriptures, I still dare you to try though and when you can't please stop making unfounded statements about God.

Yahweh often creates plagues to curse those who offend him. For example:

Quote:Num 16:44-49 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Get you up from among this congregation, that I may consume them as in a moment. And they fell upon their faces.
And Moses said unto Aaron, Take a censer, and put fire therein from off the altar, and put on incense, and go quickly unto the congregation, and make an atonement for them: for there is wrath gone out from the LORD; the plague is begun.
And Aaron took as Moses commanded, and ran into the midst of the congregation; and, behold, the plague was begun among the people: and he put on incense, and made an atonement for the people.
And he stood between the dead and the living; and the plague was stayed.
Now they that died in the plague were fourteen thousand and seven hundred, beside them that died about the matter of Korah.

The bolts of lightning, often attributed to the Christian god in popular culture, was never actually used in the Bible. Far too surgical. That was Zeus' schtick.

I must have missed something in that passage, please point out where it says God created the plague.

(June 18, 2012 at 12:56 pm)Thor Wrote:
(June 18, 2012 at 3:16 am)Godschild Wrote: Can you for once show me in scripture that God created these things: hint, you can't, not because you want, which by the way is also true, but it is not found anywhere in scriptures, I still dare you to try though and when you can't please stop making unfounded statements about God.

So your deity DIDN'T create everything? This makes no sense! If he created the universe, surely he must have created everything IN that universe. How could it be otherwise? Sounds like you're trying wriggle your way out of a knotty problem because you know the implications of admitting that yes, your deity created microbiological monsters.

And if your deity DIDN'T create these critters, where did they come from? Isn't your deity the only one who can create life?

Show me the passages, don't divert your problem to me, I did not make or contribute to your problem. Don't be so lazy, study scriptures if you want to try and debunk them.

(June 18, 2012 at 8:01 am)Zen Badger Wrote:
(June 18, 2012 at 3:16 am)Godschild Wrote: Can you for once show me in scripture that God created these things: hint, you can't, not because you want, which by the way is also true, but it is not found anywhere in scriptures, I still dare you to try though and when you can't please stop making unfounded statements about God.

Isiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Now watch the "You're not reading it in context" bullshit start to flowWink

Evil is a not the correct interpretation of the word, calamity is the proper word, you know we've be trough this a number of times and all the Christians that have responded to this verse have said the same thing. Now how does this prove God created all things?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Minimalist - June 5, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Thor - June 5, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why did God create the universe? - by znk666 - June 5, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Drich - June 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm
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RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Drich - June 5, 2012 at 7:17 pm
RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Cato - June 5, 2012 at 9:43 pm
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RE: Why did God create the universe? - by DeistPaladin - June 5, 2012 at 4:35 pm
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RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Zen Badger - June 18, 2012 at 8:01 am
RE: Why did God create the universe? - by DeistPaladin - June 18, 2012 at 9:35 am
RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Godschild - June 18, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Thor - June 18, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Thor - June 18, 2012 at 12:56 pm
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