A person on another forum was mean to me!

[Annik]

Holy shit. Are you serious? Link the part of my post where I seemed even remotely gleeful about a girl getting raped and a guy dying (not being murdered). Fucking gleeful. I like you, Annik, but I never, ever stand for someone misrepresenting my position in order to further emotionalize their own for effect.

Think of my post with more generality than that. You're letting your emotions get the best of you.

I can agree with that. However, there was only a death, not a murder.

Well, ultimately, it was the death at the hands of another man. The court system would deem it manslaughter.

According to the law, plenty of people have a right to take another's life. You are taking an extremist position that does not allow for countless scenarios. If a man comes into my house and threatens the life of everyone in it and my only recourse in stopping him is killing, I fucking sure as hell do have a right to take his life and the law will agree with me. Whether extremist types agree is irrelevant. The law, the only thing that gives us rights and takes them away, agrees.

By that logic, gays have no right to marry because the law doesn't give it to them. There was something in the Declaration that always stuck out to me: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Throwing all of that out the window, my rights don't come from a piece of paper.

I don't know who is "happy." However, the man did do the right thing. He protected his daughter. He didn't intend to kill the man, so I don't count that as part of his actions, but rather an unfortunate result. Fortunately, randoms on the internet don't get to choose whether what he did was right for him. I'm sure he is not thrilled with the outcome, but given the option again would do the same thing. That was his fucking daughter.

That doesn't make it right. Just because you can justify it doesn't automatically make it correct. I think given the same course of action, he would've stopped or hit him in a way that didn't kill the rapist. It doesn't make it right just because the child being raped was his daughter. As a test, would you advocate the victims/parents of victims to go out and murder their attackers? I should hope not. I would hope you'd tell them to calm down. Now, when a person does murder their attacker, we understand, we empathize, we even say "what a relief!, ect", but that doesn't make it right.

I understand that you're justifying this by saying that the man was protecting his daughter. I'm not sure if I wouldn't do something dissimilar. However, it would not have been the right thing to take the man's life (even if it's an accident, you're still responsible). I would've been in the wrong, had I been in the father's position.

I really think you're missing the point I'm trying to make.