A person on another forum was mean to me!

[Shell B]

I don't think anyone said, "Kill someone for threatening you." I think the idea is "You can, under the law, use deadly force to protect yourself in a situation where potentially deadly aggression is used against you." That's not advocating murder. It is saying, you do not have to stand down at the point of murder and risk being murdered yourself. For example, if someone broke into my home and put a knife to my throat and I happened to have a pistol under my bed, I would not have to make sure I shot the dude in a non lethal spot. I can use the gun to protect myself from the threat of murder that is immediately upon me. Now, if some guy stood on my front lawn and shouted "I'm going to kill you!" I could arm myself and call the police. I would not have to use any kind of force at that point to protect myself and would therefore not be justified in shooting the man and killing him.

There are lines drawn here and I don't think people should jump to conclusions too much in the argument. For example, you saying murder is wrong, Syn, does not lead me to believe you think this particular man was wrong and are advocating his imprisonment. On the other hand, people saying it is okay to kill to protect yourself from a real, present and immediate physical threat are not advocating murder. They are advocating self defense in real situations that require such, not in situations where someone simply says, "I'm going to kill you." without making any move to do so. Me saying that the man did not commit murder, as it was not intentional, does not mean I am happy someone died. There really just seems to be a lot of leaping going on here, while I think most of us actually agree on the topic. Well, apart from individuals who take very extreme, very unrealistic stances.