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Why did God create the universe?
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 25, 2012 at 11:27 am)Thor Wrote:
(June 22, 2012 at 6:35 pm)Hoc est Corpus Wrote: And yet our planet sustains life,

Yes, IN SPITE of all the dangers that surround us, life manages to exist.

Quote: and most likely will for the next million years or so.

You think life will exist here for only another "million years or so"? Life will no doubt continue to exist until the sun blows up into a red giant and boils away the oceans a few BILLION years from now.


Quote: As far as I know we are in no immediate threat of black holes, exploding stars, comets, or asteroids.

Meteors have impacted the planet since it was formed. One was big enough to wipe out the dinosaurs. In fact, the asteroid Hermes passed by Earth at about twice the distance of the moon on October 30, 1937. There's stuff floating around in space that could kill the planet if it were to impact Earth. And it could pop up at any time. And there's nothing we could do to stop it. ( I can guarantee your praying would have no effect whatsoever.)

Quote: Maybe God created all that stuff for us to discover, and enable us to learn more about "him" by studying his creation.

Or maybe he didn't. I would say the "didn't" scenario is much more likely.

(June 25, 2012 at 2:53 am)Godschild Wrote: My view comes from my faith in God as creator, I believe that the harmful ultraviolet light from the sun was blocked until after the flood,


And I believe Tinkerbell protects us from ultraviolet rays by sprinkling pixie dust in the atmosphere. There's an equal amount of evidence to support either of these scenarios.

Quote:with the harmful light coming through after the flood these single celled creatures mutated into deadly ones.

Oh.... so they EVOLVED? So the polio virus was harmless until after the flood? And in any case, your deity must have created the single celled creatures and his actions resulted in them transforming into little monsters. So, he is directly responsible for the existence of these things. Nice try in attempting to spin this so your deity somehow isn't responsible for creating a living thing. You should work on a political campaign.

Quote: This is what's responsible for animals not being able to live long lives.

Elephants can live for 80 years. Parrots and tuataras can live for 100 years. Tortoises and geoducks can live for 150 years. Greenland sharks, bowhead whales, red sea urchins and koi can live for 200 years. The antarctic sponge can live for well over 1,000 years. And the Turritopsis nutricula jellyfish is basically immortal.

You would think a deity who creates a universe for people would give his most precious creation the longest life span of all. But that's not the case. Why would that be.....?

I hate that "we're special" bullshit theists pull. On top of all of what you said, cockroaches have been around longer than humans and OUTNUMBER humans and are far more likely to adapt to a worldwide catastrophe. Eagles have much better eyesight than humans.

Long before humans concocted these monotheistic myths of Abraham, humans have always credulously invented reasons to feel "special'. It does create a real safety in numbers that can have a benefit, but that does not make the gods real. The ancient Egyptians were successful for 3,000 years falsely believing the sun was a thinking god. That placebo of falsely believing the sun was a god acted like a sugar pill which did create the safety in numbers to help them get to the point of reproduction, but the sun was never a god.

Any human today who believes in any god today is fooling themselves in thinking they are doing anything differently than what caused the Egyptians to falsely believe the sun was a god.
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RE: Why did God create the universe? - by Minimalist - June 5, 2012 at 3:43 pm
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