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(June 25, 2012 at 8:03 am)Brian37 Wrote: Where the hell do you get off trying to FALSELY accuse people about the affects of rape on a child. NO SANE person thinks rap of a child is "no big deal".
I do not know how many times I have to repeat myself. You keep mixing subjects here.
1. A natural and UNDERSTANDABLE reaction to a horrible crime.
2. HOW long term we as a society treat the accused on ANY crime they are accused of.
I am saying what this dad did was UNDERSTANDABLE , but it should be the exception and not the rule.
Again, when you deal with a species that is capable of lying, and we do it all the time, and you are also dealing with a species capable of being vindictive, A CLIMATE OF FEAR is a bad thing to foster LONG TERM.
QUIT making this about one person and one type of crime. IT SUCKS THAT THIS SHIT HAPPENS AND NO SANE PARENT wants this shit to happen to their kid AND EVERYONE agrees that rape of a child has a harmful affect on them. NO ONE IS ARGUING THAT.
If a society just wants to "get even" then we don't need a system of law and we don't need lawyers to defend the accused. In the civilized west LONG TERM we have gotten away from the barbaric "street justice" of fascist states be they the likes of Stalin or theocracies of Iran.
If you are unwilling to give due process even to the worst in our society, long term that mentality will get to the innocent.
People get put in prison even with our system in place, for stupid shit for minor possession when a fine or treatment will benefit society. I see stories in the news all the time where people spend time in prison for ALL SORTS of crimes they did not commit.
THE POINT IS that since our system is not perfect, the last thing we should be basing our reactions on are our emotions, NO MATTER WHAT THE CHARGE. The emotions, WHILE UNDERSTANDABLE, cannot replace and should not replace due process and facts. LONG TERM.
Seriously, are you okay? That is the most incoherent, indirect piece of shit. A. You are freaking out and responding to things I never said. B. Stop making it about one case? This thread is about one case. Stop making this thread about something it isn't. C. You can't have due fucking process when you are stuck in a life or death situation. That is why there are rules that cover that. D. I didn't say a fucking thing about revenge acts. Wait, I did and said they are murder. I am talking about the thread's topic. I think you are arguing with an invisible person. Still a little pissy about the word usage thing, eh? Get over it. This is a different thread.
I am not freaking out. I have just seen too much media hype from the likes of Fox News and Nancy Grace that if they had their way it would be shoot first and ask questions later.
The subject IS one case, but we are not talking about long term here. I am just saying as a reminder, YEA this sucks and it shouldn't happen, but I do worry about the climate of fear of our fearmongering media that does sell add space to the gullible and credulous.
If we today can still sell stupid ideas like Big Foot and Mayan crap, which was sold to me as a kid in "In search of" it isn't a matter of ridding the world of stupid claims, but reminding society that we cant base our reactions on what we "feel" all the time. Otherwise why have a court or jury system if we only want to convict on what we "feel".
I am not over reacting. I have seen the rush to judgment plenty of times in my private life, and in news as well.
You are talking about one case. I am simply here to remind people that the future and your own rights REGARDLESS depend on a climate of facts first before emotion.
