(July 2, 2012 at 11:52 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: I don't expect to convince the converted of anything. If you can outline for me why that as the universe has a 0 energy and that causality is dismissed (due to the big bang creating time) then yay, the "Atheists are right" and I'll be on my merry way.
By calling atheists "converted" you are tacitly implying that we hold to certain doctrine. Suprise! We don't. The best you could say all atheists must hold to is that they don't think there is sufficient evidence for God.
I don't understand why I should have to prove either of the concepts you offer. I certainly don't understand them, past a layman's perspective, and I doubt you truly understand them either (due to your scorn for science). For the sake of argument, assume that those two tidbits are entirely dismissed (by me). What does that add to your current troll against atheism?
Quote:I must admit the irony of being called a troll by coming to a forum which purpose is to troll is not lost on me, although I'm sure it would be on you.
And here you imply that all atheists are trolls... Great job. The true irony is that you revealed yourself to be a troll with this statement alone.
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
