I can feel your anger

[CliveStaples]

No, you still don't have one. (I thought we covered this?)

We did. I guess I'll have to start using shorter words.

No, I say people are responsible, and their religious excuses for why they did whatever they did should be ridiculed ad naus.

That's a meaningless distinction. The point is, you assign some kind of blame to theism on the basis of the set of beliefs that motivated the person's actions. Right?

No, I say that you haven't yet imagined a scenario or given an example of atheism being responsible for such things, but I did mention that you might get what you were looking for if you waited long enough, now didn't I? I think I see the distinction you're missing. You need atheism and another belief -that is not wholly dependent upon or motivated by- atheism. That's just my opinion, clearly someone may find such a belief someday, but again...I don't think you've been able to give an example of such a belief either. In the case of theism and that second belief. I believe in god and god demands that we kill blasphemers, the distinction is pretty simple isn't it?

Right, I guess we need to clear up what "motivated by atheism" amounts to. Is the following belief system atheist?

B = {"It is wrong to do harm", "Killing someone causes harm", "Killing someone is wrong"}

Except that Mr A believes a god exists to talk to him in the first place. You're correct though, Mr B just sounds like he doesn't like teh Jewz.

...you're just restating the information I gave you...

Do gods that don't exist talk to people....(rhetorical)? Yes, Clive, "god told me to" is a result of "at least one god exists"...there's really no way to spin this....

...what?

You honestly think that you can prove from "At least one god exists" that God told Mr. A to kill Mr. Z because Mr. Z isn't Christian? Show me that proof, please.

Yes, A's implements theism, because god told him to do something, and that god at least must exist...but just how does B implement atheism? Care to elaborate?

Any belief system that does not include the belief "At least one god exists" implements atheism. That's what it means to be atheist--you lack the belief that God exists.

You already handled that yourself, in the above....Personally though, I don't like to pass the buck. Mr A's "god" is just his own desire to kill.

No, I never provided such a series of steps. Are you refusing to do so? If you are, I'll take that as an admission that you can't prove that theism is responsible for A's actions but atheism isn't responsible for B's.