RE: I can feel your anger
July 6, 2012 at 12:03 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2012 at 12:05 pm by CliveStaples.)
(July 6, 2012 at 11:48 am)Rhythm Wrote: I'm glad you've decided to abandon this horseshit, maybe the discussion can move along now.
It was never about whether his beliefs were accurate. That was just you misunderstanding what I was talking about.
Quote:No, you realized how pathetically worded your statements were and attempted a bait and switch, but I don't hold grudges..lol.
???
I haven't changed any definitions or changed my line of questioning in this thread. I don't know where you think I've tried a "bait and switch".
Quote:Christ, you're gonna break your arm if you keep reaching like that...... (pro-tip "people who aren't christians" is also an "atheistic belief" by your crippled metrics)
"People who aren't christians" isn't a belief, because it isn't a proposition. It's not even a sentence.
Quote:What substance? Yes Clive, I tend to hold people responsible for what they do and why they do it. I know, I know, it seems pointless
No, it doesn't seem pointless. It seems worth thinking about. That's why I'm trying to get at precisely how you decide which beliefs are truly motivational.
Quote:Quote:Which, if any, of the following systems are atheist:
{Killing CliveStaples is good}
{No gods exist, killing CliveStaples is good}
{No gods exist, People who believe in God deserve to be killed, killing CliveStaples is good}
{People who believe in God deserve to be killed, killing CliveStaples is good}
None of them. Strange, because just a minute ago you knew exactly what atheism meant...
Well, according to the definition that I've used consistently through this thread--which is entirely consistent with your own definition--all of those belief systems are atheist. None of them include the believe "At least one god exists"; none of them are theist, therefore they're all atheist.
If they aren't atheist, why aren't they atheist? If atheism is the lack of theism, and they aren't atheist, wouldn't that make them theist?
(July 6, 2012 at 12:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote: God's regime. derp. See how easy this is? Meanwhile you still haven't been able to imagine a way to connect A-C with regards to atheism.
Connect A-C? What are you referring to? Atheism and communism? The people in my hypothetical?
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
