(July 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok here is an argument.
What exists, could not pop out of nothing into existence.
Therefore if God exists, he could not have popped out of nothing into existence.
Do you agree this is not circular reasoning?
If God popped out of nothingness, then the universe could have. Ergo, God is useless.
(July 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Morality if began to exist would be a delusion.
Morality is not a delusion.
Therefore morality didn't begin to exist.
This an non-circular argument as well. You can dispute premise 1, premise 2, but you can't accept premise 1 and premise 2, then say premise 3 is not true.
Why would morality be a delusion is if began to exist?
Why isn't morality a delusion?
(July 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Morality is not separate from consciousness.
Therefore if morality is eternal, so is consciousness.
Again, this is an argument that is not circular.
Morality hasn't been proven to be eternal.
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
